Originally posted by TacDavey
If a religion teaches that you are suppose to kill for it, yes. The religion can also be faulted. Christianity does not teach that you should kill people, thus, it cannot be faulted when people do for whatever reasons they concoct in their head.Again, the only time you can fault a religion for being "evil" is if it genuinely demands it's followers be evil. And I'm pretty sure none of the mainstream religions do so.
Some types of Christianity (accepted types, too) have in the past and some might still do. You can't redefine Christianity in the way that you want for this argument. Christianity is more than just following the bible or the new testament.
Originally posted by The MISTER
If someone started burning churches in the name of atheism I don't think that you could say atheism is to blame.
well, that is conflating to issues. sure, atheism, as in the doctrine or philosophy, sure, it can't be legally responsible or bare any of that sort of blame, but the person's beliefs almost certainly would have had some causal role in why they burned churches.
An atheist can be moved to do things against religious establishments they don't like, much like someone's religion can lead them to hating other groups of people or violence. There is a difference between saying that and blaming anything.
Originally posted by Bardock42That's quite incorrect. In this post you just attempted to redefine christianity. Christ is actually in the term Christian. Why would you think that christianity is more than following the teachings of Christ?
Some types of Christianity (accepted types, too) have in the past and some might still do. You can't redefine Christianity in the way that you want for this argument. Christianity is more than just following the bible or the new testament.
Originally posted by The MISTER
That's quite incorrect. In this post you just attempted to redefine christianity. Christ is actually in the term Christian. Why would you think that christianity is more than following the teachings of Christ?
Because that's how it's been used for two thousand years and that's how language works. At the core it tends to be accepting Jesus as God/Son of God and your saviour, I suppose you could claim it is ultimately following the teaching of Christ, but as they are open to interpretation there's a lot of Religions fallen under the label of Christianity like Catholicism, Baptism, Mormonism, Russian and Greek Orthodox or the Church of England.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Because that's how it's been used for two thousand years and that's how language works. At the core it tends to be accepting Jesus as God/Son of God and your saviour, I suppose you could claim it is ultimately following the teaching of Christ, but as they are open to interpretation there's a lot of Religions fallen under the label of Christianity like Catholicism, Baptism, Mormonism, Russian and Greek Orthodox or the Church of England.
Yes, there are a lot of different believes that claim to be following the teachings of "Jesus".
I'm missing how this makes Christianity evil.
Originally posted by Bardock42Catholicism, and Baptist are both denominations and you could probably say the same about the orthodox churches. I'm not sure if Mormons call themselves christians or not but if they do then they would be a denomination as well. Saying that they are separate religions is similar to saying Texas is the USA. They're connected but one is whole (USA/Christianity) and one is part of the whole (Texas/ Denominations)
Because that's how it's been used for two thousand years and that's how language works. At the core it tends to be accepting Jesus as God/Son of God and your saviour, I suppose you could claim it is ultimately following the teaching of Christ, but as they are open to interpretation there's a lot of Religions fallen under the label of Christianity like Catholicism, Baptism, Mormonism, Russian and Greek Orthodox or the Church of England.
At the core of Christianity you have the teachings of Christ.
Originally posted by TacDavey
Yes, there are a lot of different believes that claim to be following the teachings of "Jesus".I'm missing how this makes Christianity evil.
Well the thread starter defined evil as having caused the most deaths as far as I can tell. Obviously the thread starter is a troll, but regardless I don't believe Christianity to be evil, I do believe that Christianity has a death toll though, caused by its denominations (which MISTER did correctly point that we should be semantically precise)
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well the thread starter defined evil as having caused the most deaths as far as I can tell. Obviously the thread starter is a troll, but regardless I don't believe Christianity to be evil, I do believe that Christianity has a death toll though, caused by its denominations (which MISTER did correctly point that we should be semantically precise)
Ah, my mistake. I seem to be mixing this discussion up with another thread.
I apologize. I assumed you were talking about kill count in relevance to the topic of the thread. It was how I interpreted you. My point was that no matter the count it's not the religion that's "evil" unless the first part is involved.
I meant that kill count matter nothing if teaching is not involved. If it's kill count without teaching then it's just man being wicked. I meant that you need teaching involved in order for it to be evil.
I do like the word latter though. It sounds neat 😄