"Nintendo plans to announce its Wii successor at the E3 game convention in June"
"In the meantime, the guessing game is well underway in gaming forums.
Will this simply be Wii HD -- a stopgap update of the industry's top selling system that's meant to keep it relevant until Sony and Microsoft roll out their next generation machines? Or would Nintendo actually venture deeper into its 'Blue Ocean' strategy (an attempt to create a market where there initially was none) and start its own launch cycle, one that removes it from the same launch window as its two console competitors?"
http://blog.games.yahoo.com/blog/606-reports-nintendo-to-unveil-new-hd-game-console
"Nintendo is reportedly showing the console to publishers to garner interest for a late 2012 launch."
http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1161875p1.html
with the end of the first article, i hope this move by nintendo will nudge or spur the 360 and ps3 into coming out with their next gen systems soon after, as well, alas.
Originally posted by Smasandian
Oh, seriously, adding online is a big change?Welcome to 1998!
Some more big rumors... now with photos
http://www.destructoid.com/huge-load-of-wii-successor-project-cafe-rumors-199298.phtml
The rumors concerning a new HD console from Nintendo have ramped up to absurd proportions, to the point where it's getting difficult to keep track of everything.Some of the rumors sound like total BS, while some are more sensible. Here's loads of them, so make your own mind up:
* Square Enix, Capcom, Sega, Konami, Activision, Rockstar/Take Two, Electronic Arts, Namco and Ubisoft have development kits, and all have at least one game in the works.
* Nintendo may not launch with any first party games, as it plans to really support third parties this time.
* It won't have "Wii" in its name.
* Third party support extends to hardware, with a better storage solution being developed.
* Better download service.
* The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword may launch at the same time as Project Cafe. This could lead to another Twilight Princess situation.
* Hideo Kojima has been mentioned in conjunction with the system.
* Retro is working on a title that "everybody wants." It's been suggested that it could be Eternal Darkness 2.
* A Resident Evil game is in the works (when isn't one in the works?)
* A StarFox title is being worked on.
* Grand Theft Auto V will be a Project Cafe title in addition to everything else.
* A mockup was discovered and posted to 4chan (see gallery).Many of these latest rumors come from Gameolosophy, but similar or corroborative rumors have been popping up on other sites as well. A lot of the rumors make it sound almost too good, so don't get overexcited, but the sheer volume of gossip seems to suggest that the system itself is a real thing, even if its features may not be quite so amazing as rumor would have you believe.
Guess we just need to wait and see!
I must say this piqued my interest...
This sounds interesting. Right now there's like nothing to play on Wii (except Conduit 2), not even first party support.
The controllers look nice enough, they sure will be expensive though
Might not launch with any 1st party games? Well I hope they at least reveal them.
Better download service? I hope that means they will finally have a hard-drive or something.
Skyward Sword's situation doesn't really surprise me.
Star Fox title? Sounds neat but I hadn't played one of those games since the N64 version.
"Everybody wants" Eternal Darkness 2? I don't recall that. The first came and went too fast for everyone to want to sequel.
In then end, I'm not sure if I'm excited about this or not. I do want to see more about the controller though. Never expected Nintendo would do that but they're full of surprises anyway.
Yes, the controller is very interesting... the streaming thing in particular.
Good lord, IGN is reporting that production might have started by the end of the year- meaning an EARLY 2012 release, or even earlier, which might tie in with the Skyward Sword predictions. Hard to believe... we'll see.
But they are also reporting an estimated $350 or higher price. Hmm.
Potential name is rumoured as 'Stream'. I can see why they didn't put Wii in the name.
Those controllers look very uncomfortable for some reason.
And the technology in those controllers could easily make the console over $350.
Still don't see a point in a new console. There's a huge chance of not getting good 3rd party support and I don't see hardcore gamers leaving their trusted 360/PS3 for a console made by a company that has a bad track record with good 3rd party support.
And at the price it might come out, no way a casual gamer will buy this.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Microsoft and Sony have stated 10 year plans for their consoles, so Nintendo can easily steal a march.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The PS3 was released six years into the PS2's life cycle and the PS2 is still on the market now in it's eleventh year... hell it still gets new games from time to time. A 10 year console life span doesn't prohibit Sony form lunching a new console, it just means the PS3 will still be on the market as an alternative until 2016.Sony and Microsoft wont allow Nintendo to start the nextgen without them.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
No, they specifically said about it lasting ten years before launching a new one- and about how console lifecycles have changed. Microsoft have concurred since Kinect came out.So... yes, they might have to allow it actually. They don't actually have the R&D budget to just get a new one out on demand like that. Prohibitive development costs were part of their given reasoning.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'd love to see a quote where it is specified that the "10 year life span," is referring to the time before the launch of another console and not just the total shelf life.
http://gizmodo.com/#!5794012/microsoft-and-sony-targeting-2014-for-new-consoles-leaving-nintendo-in-the-clear
Other sources with access to first-party companies, speaking to Kotaku anonymously because they aren't authorized to be talking about Microsoft and Sony's plans, said that they too are hearing that 2014 is the target date, though some believe 2013 could happen if either company feels pushed.Our insider believes that any new Xbox in 2013 would only be a Kinect-upgraded 360, not the next-gen console that would come in 2014. That source says that Microsoft doesn't even know what parts will be in the next Xbox. They say the company's board "is wrestling with whether to be profitable on day one," as Nintendo's Wii was presumed to be, or to once again launch a new console at a loss, which is what Sony and Microsoft usually do.
Nothing definitive but it's not going to happen over night. If they have nothing in the works, currently, it's not going to happen. The very earliest we can see something is 2013, from either Sony or MS. There is no official statement that there will be something in 2014.
Originally posted by S_D_J
http://www.destructoid.com/huge-load-of-wii-successor-project-cafe-rumors-199298.phtml
Looks like this console is going to be expensive, probably cost more than a PS3 or 360.
I'd buy one though, if the graphics are better than either the PS3's or 360's.
Newer photo
http://www.destructoid.com/here-s-the-latest-leaked-project-cafe-image-199406.phtml
We've been inundated with all sorts of mock-ups and leakages concerning Project Cafe, the rumored HD console being developed by Nintendo. The latest development is this supposedly leaked image, found on various forums and image hosts around the 'net."Project Cafe is simply the most developer friendly SDK the industry has ever seen," reads the text accompanying the image. "Deliver unparalleled next generation performance at current generation costs. It doesn't get any easier than this."
The image also boasts easy portability from PC and Xbox 360, as well as the ability to update games at any time and an integrated M-Live framework.
As with everything concerning Project Cafe, don't take the picture as incontrovertible truth. Looks pretty slick though, right? What do you reckon?
Originally posted by dadudemon
http://gizmodo.com/#!5794012/microsoft-and-sony-targeting-2014-for-new-consoles-leaving-nintendo-in-the-clearNothing definitive but it's not going to happen over night. If they have nothing in the works, currently, it's not going to happen. The very earliest we can see something is 2013, from either Sony or MS. There is no official statement that there will be something in 2014.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Indeed- they are in no position to get anything out even remotely close. With Nintendo now apparently going for early 2012, srankmissingnin is way off on this one. Nintendo is getting in quite considerably first and the others are not going to do anything about it.
Even if Microsoft and Sony strategy matches the statements of an unnamed "industry source," and hold firm to a 2014 lunch window. That puts my predictions off by a year, which is still closer to accurate than the "10 year life cycle before next gen," prediction. Anyway, an unnamed "industry source" is not an official word from Sony or Microsoft, and even if it was, Nintendo officially said in January or February of this very year they had no plans to release a new console in the near future... which obviously was less than truful.