All Jedi Orders vs All Sith Orders.

Started by Nephthys3 pages

Don't forget that quite a few of the Sith are completely nuts.

10,000 Jedi x 1,000 generations, you get about 10,000,000 Jedi. And no where near that amount of Sith.

Each governing 800 million people? Neither side is going to form an effective fighting force. The logistics behind this for even a single campaign is an absolute nightmare. Not to mention the problems that the time-traveling Force-users are going to have attempting cohesion.

The Sith betray, conspire against, and kill each other no matter what their number or stated goal. They will turn their fleets on one another halfway through. They may have "more POWAH!" but they have lot more problems with stability and leadership. Not to say the Jedi won't, but their's will pale in comparison to the in-fighting Sith.

Jedi stomp. While an individual Sith Lord has typically more power than an individual Jedi, the numbers favor the Jedi far too much. Also I think many people are simply ignoring the top tier Jedi. Sure Exar Kun may be able to cut down several typical masters, but he was overcome by tree man (forgot his name).

I don't understand where this idea that the Jedi will degenerate into infighting has come from. The defining characteristic of the Order, established literally before the meaning of "Sith Lord" was defined was that back in the 70's, the things that Jedi were good at included flying ships and obeying orders. Despite everything, that hasn't changed.

I see the multiple generations of philosophy and teaching conflicting. The Jedi of the Rise of the Empire era are all primarily student's of Yoda's Order. His views and dogma will no doubt clash with the other 24,000 years of teachings, as will they all with each other.

But none if it will be borne of petty jealousy or a desire for more POWAH, like the Sith.

Furthermore, while ethics differ between the various stages of the Jedi Order, they have all shared the same opinion on Sith, which is that they should pretty much just be killed on sight.

Except for the Jedi from before the Second Schism, who have never heard of a Sith Lord.

Luke goes stealth and soloes.

Definately. In his X-Wing, dropping bombs on the imperial palace while hiding in the force and using a force-meld superspeed combo ftw!

first of all sith army >> jedi armys
1.Caedus>Anakin
2.Caedus>ben
3.Caedus<Yoda
4.Exar kun, nihlius, traya, freedon nadd, krayt<<Yoda
5.Yoda<<<<<<<<<<<<<Revan

Yoda would lay one epic ****ing smackdown on Revan's sorry ass.

Fishys, we all know that most Sith Lords are more powerful than the jedi, but look at their mentality.

Unless an extremly charismatic person, (a la Palpatine, Revan, Ragnos, etc.) can bind them together for this fight, then they will degenerate, with the greats taking the high positions, and end up killing the rest of them in self defence, while the greats have a truce going to end the jedi. As well as the fact alot of the greats were in Banes Order, therefore they share a united vision, with Bane at the head, being the creator.

But if they are brought together in a single force, then the jedi will either
A) All die to sabers and random force powers or B) A Sith ritual will thin their numbers by far.

plust they are hopelessly outnumbered....

Again, random ritual, burns the planet?

Thin the ranks with it

Burn the planet? What are the Sith doing kamikaze now?

"random ritual" is completely inadmissable in a vs. forum. Actually no... its now my favorite go-to move.

We'll call it RandRit for short. It'll pwn the Jedi every time.

Why would the Sith employ kamikaze tactics when they have they the numerical inferiority?

No idea. RandRit'ng the planet will kill off a lot of them too, so they won't get anywhere.

Lesse, in Sith, you'd have your Sith from the Old Empires, who are at least familiar with working together with a large force, you've got your Krayt and TOR Sith Emperor, who work with other Sith but in a purely subordinate position to them, you've got your Banites and ones that follow similar philosophy who don't like those setups, and you got your Kaan and his council of equals, whom both Banites and One Sith would look down upon.

I'm guessing politically, Ancient Sith would be in the best position to take charge. Pretty much every group of Sith likes them, and they're used to having multiple powerful Sith Lords who don't try and pretend to be equals and buddies but instead just hold looser alliances.

Alternatively, the whole thing might just explode into a huge Sith civil war as some of the most powerful Sith ever may be unwilling to deal with others who can threaten them in the Sith. Maybe just lock them all in a single big building and see who walks out...

Conversely on the Jedi, I think the later eras would have the best chance of taking charge, most specifically Luke. He's studied prior eras and has a very balanced approach, and can directly speak of what happened to the prior orders. He's both incredibly powerful and has a view on the force that is somewhat in the middle ground of various Jedi views of different era.

Originally posted by ares834
Jedi stomp. While an individual Sith Lord has typically more power than an individual Jedi, the numbers favor the Jedi far too much. Also I think many people are simply ignoring the top tier Jedi. Sure Exar Kun may be able to cut down several typical masters, but he was overcome by tree man (forgot his name).

Yes.

One of the primary advantages of the Sith is that they *only* recruit top-tier force users most of the time and then put all of their training into just that one for decades, but when they do have big orders, the average sith isn't much better than Jedi, only a handful of the higher ups tend to be comparable to the sith from few-sith times, and the Jedi tend to have a few people in the same league too (your Mace Windus, Jedi Exile, Skywalkers, etc.).