What Streetleveler's I.Q is Higher than Deathstroke's?

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His Pym Particles firmly put him into meta territory, and as either Ant-Man or Giant-Man or what have you, imo. The guy recently grew to the abstract realm (WTF btw) and his standard equipment dwarfs what Batman usually carries.

I'm still not convinced. Half the shit Black Panther pulls out his ass without warning when the situation call for it is more useful/power/impressive than Pym particles...

Originally posted by -Pr-
Don't diss Pym.

I meant "WTF" in a good way, damn it!

I fully support the Scientist Supreme. sneer

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm still not convinced. Half the shit Black Panther pulls out his ass without warning when the situation call for it is more useful/power/impressive than Pym particles...

So you would think Pym as the Wasp or Giant Man is strictly street level?

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I wouldn't dub any of those guys street levelers.

Except for Reed, they are all normal humans that use tech. and Reed had a higher IQ than Slade even before he gained powers.

Originally posted by long pig
That actually makes sense. He it IS total bs, it was some premium quality bs. If it's correct, them how fubaking smart was BM one million cuz he had a 1500 iq.

Maybe, Batman One Million's intelligence was to Reed Richards, as Karate Kid is to Shang-Chi? Scary!

Yeah, IQ has an upper limit from what I've seen, and also isn't 1:1 with point increases.

Hyperbole abounds in comics. You can take 1 instance of it to make all sorts of absurd rationalizations. But when held up to context, it doesn't fit. I'm not sure why this one would merit more consideration than any other example, especially since it's before the character was well-established. So...Slade = Batman 1 Million? Heh.

Honestly think his 10 times brain power or whatever it is, has more to do with his physical ability. That his brain can percieve items moveing beyond what a human could. In other words capt, spidy ect. Just means his brain is enhanced beyond normal humans in terms of reaction. I do not believe it has anything to do with his actual intellect or that he smarter then people like NW, batman ect.

I disagree, my man srank(bless you and than massive summersausage you smuggle in your pants). DS is a very accomplised inventer and seems to be a wiz at any scientific...um, stuff.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Except for Reed, they are all normal humans that use tech. and Reed had a higher IQ than Slade even before he gained powers.

Doom has magical powers which surpass that of current Strange - and rivaled Strange when he was the SS. Tony actually has superpowers now as he is Iron Man. And Pym with his standard equipment as a whole is a meta. IIRC, I think the Pym Particles are actually a part of him biologically anyway now.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So you would think Pym as the Wasp or Giant Man is strictly street level?

Do you think Clint is a bigger threat as Hawkeye or Goliath?

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Do you think Clint is a bigger threat as Hawkeye or Goliath?

Hawkeye, but Giant-Man (and especially Wasp) > Goliath, anyway.

I don't see how being a class 50 with moderate durability and super strength and the ability to shrink or grow mass doesn't make you a meta class being instead of a street leveler. Hawkeye's arrows can be exceptionally powerful, but as a whole, he's a street level character.

Pym, as a whole, is not.

Anyone seen the movie limitless? Bradly Cooper is pretty much gains the powers of Deathstroke and is awesome.

Originally posted by long pig
I disagree, my man srank(bless you and than massive summersausage you smuggle in your pants). DS is a very accomplised inventer and seems to be a wiz at any scientific...um, stuff.

Yes but not more so then Batman. Only enhance brain slade has is the same one any superhuman worth there grit has. They can react to more stimuli and at faster rates then normal humans. However they are not smarter intellectually, which is why capt, slade ect. Are not the smartest people on the planet or close to it. Reed batman ect. are smarter.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hawkeye, but Giant-Man (and especially Wasp) > Goliath, anyway.

I don't see how being a class 50 with moderate durability and super strength and the ability to shrink or grow mass doesn't make you a meta class being instead of a street leveler.

For the same reason Iron Fist can one shot bullet trains, and is street level? Growing 100 feet or shrinking is a minor ability, countered easily by something as simple as a gas grenade. I don't consider it enough to elevate someone above the parameters of street level.

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
For the same reason Iron Fist can one shot bullet trains, and is street level? Growing 100 feet or shrinking is a minor ability, countered easily by something as simple as a gas grenade. I don't consider it enough to elevate someone above the parameters of street level.

See, but I don't consider Iron Fist street level, not when factoring in his chi based abilities. *shrug*

Slade not technically a street leveler either.

Originally posted by Digi
Yeah, IQ has an upper limit from what I've seen, and also isn't 1:1 with point increases.

Hyperbole abounds in comics. You can take 1 instance of it to make all sorts of absurd rationalizations. But when held up to context, it doesn't fit. I'm not sure why this one would merit more consideration than any other example, especially since it's before the character was well-established. So...Slade = Batman 1 Million? Heh.

I don't think you got what I said. I was saying that even his first appearance he was 10x more intelligent. Since then it's been said in 90 percent of his showings. It wasn't a one time thing. I THINK even when DS was powerless and was kicking bat's ass, he commented that DS was still smarter.

edit came off kinda harsh. 90% of his showings? You may want to rephrase that.

Peter Paker also has a higher IQ.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
edit came off kinda harsh. 90% of his showings? You may want to rephrase that.

It's been stated numerous times that Slade uses 90% of his brain whereas the normal human only taps into 10%, which is based off that myth in real world science.