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srankmissingnin
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What Streetleveler's I.Q is Higher than Deathstroke's?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His Pym Particles firmly put him into meta territory, and as either Ant-Man or Giant-Man or what have you, imo. The guy recently grew to the abstract realm (WTF btw) and his standard equipment dwarfs what Batman usually carries.
I'm still not convinced. Half the shit Black Panther pulls out his ass without warning when the situation call for it is more useful/power/impressive than Pym particles...
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JakeTheBank
Return of the King
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What Streetleveler's I.Q is Higher than Deathstroke's?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm still not convinced. Half the shit Black Panther pulls out his ass without warning when the situation call for it is more useful/power/impressive than Pym particles...
So you would think Pym as the Wasp or Giant Man is strictly street level?
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Silent Master
Senior Member
Re: Re: Re: What Streetleveler's I.Q is Higher than Deathstroke's?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I wouldn't dub any of those guys street levelers.
Except for Reed, they are all normal humans that use tech. and Reed had a higher IQ than Slade even before he gained powers.
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JakeTheBank
Return of the King
Re: Re: Re: Re: What Streetleveler's I.Q is Higher than Deathstroke's?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Except for Reed, they are all normal humans that use tech. and Reed had a higher IQ than Slade even before he gained powers.
Doom has magical powers which surpass that of current Strange - and rivaled Strange when he was the SS. Tony actually has superpowers now as he is Iron Man. And Pym with his standard equipment as a whole is a meta. IIRC, I think the Pym Particles are actually a part of him biologically anyway now.
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srankmissingnin
VP of Comic Knowledge
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What Streetleveler's I.Q is Higher than Deathstroke's?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So you would think Pym as the Wasp or Giant Man is strictly street level?
Do you think Clint is a bigger threat as Hawkeye or Goliath?
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JakeTheBank
Return of the King
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What Streetleveler's I.Q is Higher than Deathstroke's?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Do you think Clint is a bigger threat as Hawkeye or Goliath?
Hawkeye, but Giant-Man (and especially Wasp) > Goliath, anyway.
I don't see how being a class 50 with moderate durability and super strength and the ability to shrink or grow mass doesn't make you a meta class being instead of a street leveler. Hawkeye's arrows can be exceptionally powerful, but as a whole, he's a street level character.
Pym, as a whole, is not.
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srankmissingnin
VP of Comic Knowledge
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What Streetleveler's I.Q is Higher than Deathstroke's?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hawkeye, but Giant-Man (and especially Wasp) > Goliath, anyway.I don't see how being a class 50 with moderate durability and super strength and the ability to shrink or grow mass doesn't make you a meta class being instead of a street leveler.
For the same reason Iron Fist can one shot bullet trains, and is street level? Growing 100 feet or shrinking is a minor ability, countered easily by something as simple as a gas grenade. I don't consider it enough to elevate someone above the parameters of street level.
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JakeTheBank
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What Streetleveler's I.Q is Higher than Deathstroke'
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
For the same reason Iron Fist can one shot bullet trains, and is street level? Growing 100 feet or shrinking is a minor ability, countered easily by something as simple as a gas grenade. I don't consider it enough to elevate someone above the parameters of street level.
See, but I don't consider Iron Fist street level, not when factoring in his chi based abilities. *shrug*