Originally posted by Tazer
yea, but an avg of 105 *isnt that much* of a deviation from 100, and that score is likely to come from others who have a much higher score, which would in-effect raise the avg.
well, yes, that's why the whole concept of an average iq is broken in the first place, because depending on a whole host of other factors, you can get very different average iqs. start a thread in the GDF if you want.
finding a single news report or study that found an avg iq of 115 would not be surprising at all, and you are correct, says more about the people in that study than the population as a whole, but this is the same as any study about absolutly anything.
115 is a little high, sure, but it is easily something he could have read somewhere, and really, one standard deviation (and a bit) isn't much. like, 115 is still only going to be like 70-80th percentile, if the average were really 100, which it isn't. 115 is within one sd of the real average for sure.
Originally posted by Q99
IQ 100 is supposed to be average by definition- that is to say, if the average starts moving, they adjust the scale to make it average. Though the tests do tend to lag behind that a bit (intelligence is rising faster than test calibration) hence higher scores being common.
the average of who? the earths population? Only those tested (who tend to be well educated westerners)? those who are wealthy? whites?
look, seriously, if there is interest in this topic, let's take it to the GDF where we can get deeper into what iq scores really mean, and why this avg=100 thing is generally not standard
Originally posted by inimalistnah let's spam this thread with unrelated chatter. so, stephen jay gould claimed that G was a satistical artifact produced by the analysis of non-related cognitive capacities, but I understand mainstream psychometrics disgarees and beleives the correlations are real. your thoughts? and how do you feel about multiple intelligences theory?
the average of who? the earths population? Only those tested (who tend to be well educated westerners)? those who are wealthy? whites?look, seriously, if there is interest in this topic, let's take it to the GDF where we can get deeper into what iq scores really mean, and why this avg=100 thing is generally not standard
Originally posted by 753
nah let's spam this thread with unrelated chatter.
done, oh, and by the way, everyone sign up for my tournament!
Originally posted by 753
so, stephen jay gould claimed that G was a satistical artifact produced by the analysis of non-related cognitive capacities, but I understand mainstream psychometrics disgarees and beleives the correlations are real. your thoughts?
ugh, ya, ask an easy question.
short answer would be, any measure of g we have is known to be influenced by things that are, at best, indirectly tied to what people would think of as intelligence, but do I think there is a specific cognitive system that underlies problem solving, which is not just comprised of other systems? of course.
the Stanford-binnet has it's problems, but I don't think that means the idea of "intelligence", as a cognitive system, is just a collection of other systems, just that the production of problem solving skills is not independent of context.
Originally posted by 753
and how do you feel about multiple intelligences theory?
there are some things I like very much about it, but at times I think they call anything at which someone call be skilled at a form of intelligence, which makes sense from the political history of intelligence research (it is wrong to say someone might not be intelligent, but not so with things like athleticism, creativity, leadership, charisma, etc.
clearly though, what is understood by the public as intelligence is not simply what the Stanford-binnet measures, and few people close to the science would suggest this, as the data isn't there.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea, and people think Schooling tests it. Whereas school focuses mostly on linguistic. There are different intelligences for different things. I'm not sure most people understand that, specifically comic book writers.People should be trained in the are they are best at.