Superboy Prime Runs the Slugfest Gauntlet

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Post the scans then.

Sure. I'll just use the one's from the respect thread, I don't feel like logging into photobucket. Here you go man.

Here he not only counters and matches speed, but outdoes all of them, stating " I'mfasttoo."
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone8.jpg

Here it's stated that even Wally won't beat Prime back to New Earth. Which is why Bart absorbs the entire speed force to do it.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/flash6oroboros031rc0af8.jpg

And arguably doesn't make it in time. Although, I would argue that they got there at around the same time to be fair.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primeescapes1.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primeescapes2.jpg

Then there's the instance from SC. The flashes surprise blitz him, then he has enough and counterattacks before they can react. This is kind of like the example in IC, although with less finesse lol. Keep in mind that he's not exactly at full stream here due to the red sun incident.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs2.jpg

Anyway, as I said before quan, take it how you will, but in comics, Prime --when confrontationally involved with an unamped flash-- is generally shown by the writers to be consistently "faster". However, in a forum battle, the result would be slightly different, as the full capacity rule would come into play and it would be assumed that the flashes would use their more exotic abilities to gain wins. But as it stands, there has not been a circumstance barring the speed force dump (which in the end, it took six flashes to achieve) in which Prime has been unable to handle an unamped flash. If you have an instance that I have forgotten, then feel free to post it.

None of those scans show superior combat speed if that's what you were trying to get at.

Originally posted by Mindset
None of those scans show superior combat speed if that's what you were trying to get at.

How so? Would you not consider the first one combat speed?

Anyway, combat speed wasn't necessarily the point, it was to dispel the myth that normal flashes are Prime's weakness and somehow beat him every time.

Yes, kind of, I mean he's really just spinning.

But anyway, it doesn't show superior combat speed.

I agree with the second part though.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, kind of, I mean he's really just spinning.

But anyway, it doesn't show superior combat speed.

I agree with the second part though.

It does. Stop being an idiot.

Originally posted by Mindset
He's never going to touch Zoom.

Oh pls. Zoom can't even fly.

Originally posted by Sirius77
No one said that they worked the same way, in fact, I implied otherwise. You were the one arguing that. One is a matter of losing a charge, while the other is a matter of said charge being drained.

So just because Prime left the area under the red suneater, his powers magically returned? No, that's not how it works. Red solar energy is the only thing that has been shown to even remotely weaken Prime. Being even exposed to it weakens him. He was flown through a red sun in ic, which depowered him to the point of losing flight and heat vision, as well as all of his other abilities-- and then he was put under a red sun eater afterward for a year. To even imply that he wasn't depowered by this point would be asinine.

Assume things huh? Like you're assuming that just because these suits were made by lex luthor they are superman level?

Again, when have these men in robot suits ever given superman trouble? You can't just make up imaginary storylines in which featless characters suddenly gain feats.

Faster than any superman? So you think he's faster than Golden Supes then? Right.

Show me on panel where it states this. Then show me on panel where this is proven. Just because he is stated to be "faster than a speeding tachyon" using his own statements, means nothing unless he has proven himself to be. Also, again, to a flash this is nothing.

I actually laughed at that one.

Where on panel in a DC COMIC was it stated that the Metal Men are heralds? Lol, give me scans.

Btw, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

On panel in DC One Million issue 4 on page 11 it was stated by Wonder Woman one million "He's dying hourman! No one can shatter the time barrier with bare hands!" Hourman responds "He can Wonder Woman, [B]with our help." as stated by the android with the worlogog.... so yes, he had help, because directly after that statement, in the next panel, he threw a punch and made it through.

Yes he did. In fact, Prime's punches were the reason for the death's and reinventions of several heroes, including superman's death, resurrection and transformation into "Superman Blue". Or even the three different versions of the legion of superheroes. His punches created all of these events. That is how DC explains the changes in continuity. Prime did it.

Superman 1 million punched his way to the 853rd century. Prime punched his way into another universe, and altered the multiverse, and created alternate universes by doing so, while weakened. Prime has the better feat.

This confirms that his punches altered DC history.

Prime will have literally no problem breaking through any of 1 million's shields. He easily broke through three layers of Brainiac 5's shields, as well as a 300 mile thick wall of will power supported by 32 green lanterns' will. Also, if you can't prove that Superman 1 million is stronger than Prime with on panel evidence, then everything that you just said is just an unfounded opinion regarding your favorite character.

Superman 1 million didn't defeat solaris lol. Kyle did. He made it go supernova, then he blocked the effects. All Superman 1 million did was help out with his force vision, but he needed absolute concentration for that. Kyle was ultimately the one that killed solaris. But you wouldn't know that, because you only saw scans.

Again, show me where it said anything about his powers being at 5% or even 50% or everything you've just said was a lie. I literally just re-read the series, and nothing you've said regarding percentages is true. Post scans.

Prime kicks his ass in a slugfest. Prove otherwise. [/B]

non of the things you said change the fact that its your speculation vs facts, facts stated that 1 million lost almost all his powers while prime never was stated or implyed to even be at the same depowerment level as 1 million, so when it wasnt stated you just compare the situation .. you got 1 million who couldnt use any of his powers he couldnt even fly and then you have prime who used all his powers just fine , prove he was depowered and show me where is it stated that prime was depowered

also prime being a year under the red sun doesnt mean he couldnt regain his powers back after he got away from the red sun so prove he didnt regain his powers back after being in the red sun and escaping it prove he was depowered and prove by how much he was depowered by feats or statements and not things you pull out of your ass

as i said before those giant robots were designed by lex himself to fight superman and the writer intended to tell us those robots can give superman a run for his money otherwise there was no point of stating that hey were designed for a certein task other than to show how can 1 million match an army that was built specially to fight superman , i am making things up? let me guess like your imaginary huge depower prime had? GTFO

he was stated actually to be faster than any incarnation of superman as we know the golden one was brough back later and in fact it was stated that golden prime impowered 1 million with his own powers to defend the 1 million universe so he may be as fast as golden seing golden never proved to be superiour

you ask to do alot of panel showings i dont have a scanner but if you claim you got all the 1 million arc re read it without the superboy prime glasses and actually read it, proved himself? being in a different place and ariving from point A to point B and being able to outrun a nanosecond and still do the job by using a foce vision shows he did 2 things faster than nanosecond which is ariving and doing an action not just traveling at that speed thats a great speed feat

if you go to the DC power scale the new one and search them it will show you they are under the heralds

wonder woman stated he is dying and that no one can break time with his bare fists firs of all she said it after he already broke the time barrier and after he punched already many centeries into the future so that statement is wrong he already broke the time barrier and punched that far, hourman said he can with our help but they never show them helping him it was never stated or implyed they are actually helping him so for you to just speculate they helped him even without it being stated or showed on panel is bullshit , they were thinking of helping him but he already did all the work

prime focused on altering things while 1 million focused on punching himself 853 centeries into the future they both focused on different things and 1 million still while punching sent shockwaves throue the timeline effecting people and events even with the fact he never intended to do it, as i said before punching 853 centeries into the future > punching reality and changing couple events... add to this the fact 1 million lost almost all the power he had to the point he barrelly had anything and prime was at full power unless you can prove otherwise and what you get is full power superman 1 million >>>>>> superboy prime

prove that 1 million will have no problem breaking out of 1 millions shields.. prove the limits of 1 million shields because saying he will just break them wont work, he contained hourman 1 million with his force jacket and was able to hold solaris itself with his force vision while green lantern was already bleeding and couldnt even hold his hand he was going to die and 1 million just traped solaris with that , as i said before 1 million has high telepathy prove it wont effect prime and prove he can break out of all the enrgy shields superman 1 million has , he used his shield to protect some warlord from another galaxy from cosmic astroids and cosmic explosions prove prime will be able to generate force to break out of this shield if its tight holding his arms together

1 million can create a force field around him and then enhance it with his force vision which prime will never be able to escape, and as i said before feats of brute strength alone put 1 million over prime

kyle was dying and couldnt hod his arm straight he was dying then 1 million came and held solaris inside he did almost all the work in that moment so saying kyle did all the work is lying and bullshit

it was stated that by the writer that 1 million had less than half of his overall power.. now if we use our brain we understand while it wasnt stated as 50% it was said less than half which is less than 50% right? if you are that ignorant its not up to me to provide those little details , now at less than 50% which could be even 40 but the fact remains the same that under 50% he was s till able to fly and use all his powers only weaker, now if we see him at a point where he doesnt have any power left lost his heat vision lost his flight which is a basic thing that alone tells us he was depowered by far less than 50% which logically tells us it was at leasy 1 fifth of his overall powers since he lost so many powrs so once again if you are unable to use logic its not my problem because the writers give us hitns they dont have to explain every single thing to us like some retards they expect us to understand things on our own

Lol prove otherwise? i have feats to prove 1 million while losing all his powers was still stronger than prime physically alone... now 100% 1 million is destroying prime with 2-3 shots... and thats only physically, now with all his other powers this is a spite , prove otherwise.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
also prime being a year under the red sun doesnt mean he couldnt regain his powers back after he got away from the red sun so prove he didnt regain his powers back after being in the red sun and escaping it prove he was depowered and prove by how much he was depowered by feats or statements and not things you pull out of your ass

Don't be foolish. He was flown through a red sun and kept under one for a year afterwards. Then he needed a solar suit to feed him power.

Zauriel states "This sinner must starve for God's gracious light. Why else would he still be wearing that harness?" Then MM says "Zauriel is correct. He's been locked away on Oa for over a year. His Kryptonian cells have yet to fully recharge." Batman even says "The armor's what's fueling his body. Focus your energies on destroying it."
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs3.jpg

And they do just that, he's further depowered when redstar melts his suit off with red sun radiation.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs7.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs8.jpg
Keep in mind, it was his only power source, and the sun isn't out.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
as i said before those giant robots were designed by lex himself to fight superman and the writer intended to tell us those robots can give superman a run for his money otherwise there was no point of stating that hey were designed for a certein task other than to show how can 1 million match an army that was built specially to fight superman , i am making things up? let me guess like your imaginary huge depower prime had? GTFO

What you say doesn't mean jack shit. What matters is on panel evidence, and you have given none.

So again, where does it state that these robots are superman level? Give me a scan.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
he was stated actually to be faster than any incarnation of superman

you ask to do alot of panel showings i dont have a scanner but if you claim you got all the 1 million arc re read it without the superboy prime glasses and actually read it, proved himself? being in a different place and ariving from point A to point B and being able to outrun a nanosecond and still do the job by using a foce vision shows he did 2 things faster than nanosecond which is ariving and doing an action not just traveling at that speed thats a great speed feat

That's retarded. Your reasoning. The points you've made. Everything.

Prime beat the flashes to New Earth in IC, that trumps every speed feat that 1 million has. The funny thing is, you don't even have any evidence to counter this because you refuse to post scans. Download a damned comic and get a photobucket account and stop whining.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
if you go to the DC power scale the new one and search them it will show you they are under the heralds

Herald level is a marvel term. Show me this "DC power scale". Lol. This is too ridiculous. You really got me. You've been trolling me this entire time right? No one is this stupid.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
wonder woman stated he is dying and that no one can break time with his bare fists firs of all she said it after he already broke the time barrier and after he punched already many centeries into the future so that statement is wrong he already broke the time barrier and punched that far, hourman said he can with our help but they never show them helping him it was never stated or implyed they are actually helping him so for you to just speculate they helped him even without it being stated or showed on panel is bullshit , they were thinking of helping him but he already did all the work

Hourman said that he would help, and the next panel Superman 1 million is in the 853rd century.
1. There was already a vortex there before Superman 1 million even started punching.
2. Hourman, the only one in possession of the worlogog, a manifestation of time itself was present with him while he did this.
3. Hourman offered to help, and the next scene is Superman one million back in the 853rd century.
Seriously, you can't be that dense. Read the comic.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
prime focused on altering things while 1 million focused on punching himself 853 centeries into the future they both focused on different things and 1 million still while punching sent shockwaves throue the timeline effecting people and events even with the fact he never intended to do it, as i said before punching 853 centeries into the future > punching reality and changing couple events... add to this the fact 1 million lost almost all the power he had to the point he barrelly had anything and prime was at full power unless you can prove otherwise and what you get is full power superman 1 million >>>>>> superboy prime

Prime didn't do any of that on purpose. He never focused on anything. He just punched his way out of a pocket dimension because he wanted to leave.

He didn't change a "couple events", he altered everything every time he hit the wall. The two extra legion of superheroes teams (and their universes) were created, in part, as a result of Prime's interactions with the barrier, possibly Superman one million included with the recent reveal of Lyrl Dox's creation of solaris now that I think about it.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
prove that 1 million will have no problem breaking out of 1 millions shields.. prove the limits of 1 million shields because saying he will just break them wont work, he contained hourman 1 million with his force jacket and was able to hold solaris itself with his force vision while green lantern was already bleeding and couldnt even hold his hand he was going to die and 1 million just traped solaris with that , as i said before 1 million has high telepathy prove it wont effect prime and prove he can break out of all the enrgy shields superman 1 million has , he used his shield to protect some warlord from another galaxy from cosmic astroids and cosmic explosions prove prime will be able to generate force to break out of this shield if its tight holding his arms together

Kyle was holding solaris on his own for quite some time before Superman one million even arrived.

Let's be generous and say hypothetically that Superman one million supplied half of the power to hold solaris, and Kyle, supplied the other half. Kyle is a gl. Prime flew through a 300 mile thick shield generated by over 32 gls. He then killed 32 of them. So yes, he will have no problem what so ever flying directly through Superman one million's shields like they're nothing 🙂

Also, Superman one million's telepathy won't be an issue imo, I doubt he would have time (or enough focus during the battle) to use it.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
kyle was dying and couldnt hod his arm straight he was dying then 1 million came and held solaris inside he did almost all the work in that moment so saying kyle did all the work is lying and bullshit

Don't exaggerate. Kyle caused solaris to go "nova" by batman's command, then he proceeded to contain the nova by himself until Superman one million arrived and focused all of his power on containing the supernova that a weakened Kyle had started and held back without him. So no, Superman one million didn't do all the work. You'd be hard-pressed to say he did anything concerning solaris but look like a bitch in comparison to Kyle.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
it was stated that by the writer that 1 million had less than half of his overall power.. now if we use our brain we understand while it wasnt stated as 50% it was said less than half which is less than 50% right? if you are that ignorant its not up to me to provide those little details

The burden of proof is on you. You're the one that stated that nonsense about Superman one million being at 5% of his overall power.

If it was stated by the writer, then prove it by posting the scan.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
now if we see him at a point where he doesnt have any power left lost his heat vision lost his flight which is a basic thing that alone tells us he was depowered by far less than 50% which logically tells us it was at leasy 1 fifth of his overall powers since he lost so many powrs so once again if you are unable to use logic its not my problem because the writers give us hitns they dont have to explain every single thing to us like some retards they expect us to understand things on our own

facepalm You need to stop posting for a while.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
Lol prove otherwise? i have feats to prove 1 million while losing all his powers was still stronger than prime physically alone... now 100% 1 million is destroying prime with 2-3 shots... and thats only physically, now with all his other powers this is a spite , prove otherwise.

You have yet to even prove that Superman one million a)was unaided when he punched through time, b) that he's faster than peak superman, much less Prime or a mid level flash, and c) that his durability even approaches Prime's-- and that is just me being generous by not addressing the rest of this ridiculousness.

I posted scans to validate my claims, now it's time for you to do the same. But you won't, because you're literally trolling me right now.

so you admit the power suit gave him powers so it sattled then right? he had his power thanks to the suit great job at owning yourself, prove by how much he was depowered because you seem to claim he was also depowered when i state 1 million was depowered so if you want to make it relevant provide any avidance that he was depowered signifintly otherwise again you are making things out of your own ass

where did you learn to post scans like that? can you post scans that doesnt take 1 freakin hour to open? geez

your scan basically prove that armor was giving him his powers and compinsating on his original loss which means he was full powered again nice job owning yourself

now they stated he is not FULLY recharged which means after he got away from the red sun he WAS recharging only it took some time so prove when his suit was melted he didnt recharge already and even if you prove he didnt recharge already show me avidance of by how much he was depowered because if you wont i can just go and say his full power wasnt restored without the armor but he was at 90% already

as i said before writers sometimes dont feed us with golden spoon and show us everything and they couldnt show those robots fighting superman because he was in a different place BUT the writer instead told us that they were designed to fight superman they were specifically made by lex luthor who knows superman very well to the core of his powers to fight superman... the writer didnt expect most of his reader to be that dumb to not realise he was implying to us that 1 million is going to face an army of robots which all could give superman trouble

oh did i get you mad? save those naughty words for your friends i will keep owning the shit out of you, and what are those speed feats that trash 1 million? oh let me guess like you just said he was faster than flashes? wrong... the flashes actually proved to be faster than him and even the weakest flash speed blitzed him as i remember they owned him and blitzed him, prove that he was faster than them... and even if you show something what does that means? deathstroke was faster than flash in combat so now deathstroke is also faster? show me prime doing actual speed feats , as i said before 1 million was stated to be faster than any superman and thats enough... further? he was able to get from point A to point B and use his force vision which is 2 actions and all that before a nanosecond bomb exploded.. so you can shoveall your statements right up your ass

as i said get your fat ass out the prime wankage room and look at the DC powerscale and search them it will show you they are heralds i am not going to doall the work for you nooboos

the vortex was just a gate like the reality wall that prime was punching dont be a hypocrite they cant show him punching just air since the world would be erased before the time was bruised so theyhad to give them both adevice hypocrite

hourman stated we can help him after superman 1 million already broke the time barrier and already punched many centeries into thefuture.. it was never showed or stated that he DID help him by any means he was intending to somehow help him but 1 million did it by himself as was showed on panel so GTFO with your so called ass grasp and dont make things out of your ass, and superman 1 million stated "I DID IT" which tells us HE did it.. if hourman was helping him it would be stated that he helped but they never show or state anything like that so its your who is the dense bozo

again more things you pull out of your ass, first of all he was hitting a wall of reality who know how that device helped him maybe that wall made it much easier for him to punch? maybe it was like a bridge and you didnt need that much power? he didnt change events far away from each other which is by far inferiour to punching 853 centeries into the future the events he altered didnt took too much time apart from each other while 1 million punched 853 centeries into the future and altering things by mistake he never intended to alter anything and he sent shockwaves thruought 853 centeries that by far overshadows what prime did with full power and 1 million with barelly anything left in him

kyle was dying what are you reading with? your ass? kyle was bleeding and couldnt even raise his arm he was holding it with his other arm and 1 million came and was holding kyles force field and solaris as well he was supporting both , and how does 32 lanterns are better than solaris? are you that dumb? solaris was stated to be able to destroy a universe it was apocalypse itself while 32 larnters are just a joke you fail, you are avoiding the things i say prove that prime can break 1 millions shield which could contain a warlord and keep him safe from cosmic threats and if he enhance it with his force vision prime is dead prove otherwise, Lol i dont give a shit about your opinion since its dense i sayhis telepathy will own prime with easy prove i am wrong, 1 million while losing all his powers still wasable to control the minds of several people at the same time and Lol at you for thinking he wont have the time to use it since he was stated to be able to calculate over billion cenarious in a second as was stated on panel which means his speed of thought is by far faster than anything superboy prime will be able to do so again i owned you

Lol i just love how you ignore everything that owns you thats fine for a special kid like you i will explain again... 1 million was stated to have less than half of his powers which is less than 50% and he still had all his powers to alessed degree, so when losing all his powers even his basic flight only a moron wont be able to realise how weaken he was and that it was somewhere around 5%-10% he had left

so you like to post facepalms? thats cool mine is bigger than yours like probably everything else 🙂

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i proved all my point by stating facts and valid feats while you post scans which prove nothing, i proved that 1million physically did much superiour feat toprime at full power, i dared you to prove prime was depowerd and by how much proved 1 million is faster than prime by far and caught you lying that he is faster than the flashes while they blitzed him in reality, i proved the robots could match superman, i proved that 1 million punched time on his own using just a vortex that didnt change anything, proved he had something around 5-10 present of his overall power, proved that overall 1 million >>>>>>> prime when he is full power, proved you are a troll and dense, proved mine is bigger than yours,owned you and kicked you now get lost

Shoko and Omega Blast, stop whatever it is you both are doing wrong in this thread.

And my facepalm>>>>>every other facepalm. durpalm

Originally posted by Badabing
Shoko and Omega Blast, stop whatever it is you both are doing wrong in this thread.

And my facepalm>>>>>every other facepalm. durpalm

you wana tell me sirius is shokosugi?????????

Pipe down before I forget it's Good Friday and decide to check your IP a bit closer...

Originally posted by Badabing
Pipe down before I forget it's Good Friday and decide to check your IP a bit closer...

like we all dont know who i am ... i actually started here couple years ago my first apearence here was debating for wolverine vs namor it lasted something like 50 pages but ever since i was the villian getting banned all the time, i am glad i got a chance to actually post here and i know i can be a d!ck sometimes but banned or not i will always love this board 🙂

Originally posted by Badabing
Pipe down before I forget it's Good Friday and decide to check your IP a bit closer...
Just ban the asshat Bada 😐

Originally posted by iceman24567
Just ban the asshat Bada 😐

why are you asking him to ban you? other than that you are trolling this thread

Lol, I should stop debating with trolls/ socks. Especially ones that aren't even intelligent enough to keep their own identities a secret. That was annoying.

It was Pr's sock.

Oh shi-

Originally posted by Sirius77
Sure. I'll just use the one's from the respect thread, I don't feel like logging into photobucket. Here you go man.

Here he not only counters and matches speed, but outdoes all of them, stating " I'mfast[B]too."
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone8.jpg

Here it's stated that even Wally won't beat Prime back to New Earth. Which is why Bart absorbs the entire speed force to do it.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/flash6oroboros031rc0af8.jpg

And arguably doesn't make it in time. Although, I would argue that they got there at around the same time to be fair.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primeescapes1.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primeescapes2.jpg

Then there's the instance from SC. The flashes surprise blitz him, then he has enough and counterattacks before they can react. This is kind of like the example in IC, although with less finesse lol. Keep in mind that he's not exactly at full stream here due to the red sun incident.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs2.jpg

Anyway, as I said before quan, take it how you will, but in comics, Prime --when confrontationally involved with an unamped flash-- is generally shown by the writers to be consistently "faster". However, in a forum battle, the result would be slightly different, as the full capacity rule would come into play and it would be assumed that the flashes would use their more exotic abilities to gain wins. But as it stands, there has not been a circumstance barring the speed force dump (which in the end, it took six flashes to achieve) in which Prime has been unable to handle an unamped flash. If you have an instance that I have forgotten, then feel free to post it. [/B]

Misinterpretations throughout each and every scan. You aren't fooling anyone with any of these scans. Prime seems to be faster here in the one portrayal in terms of travel speed but who cares flashes sometimes struggle over light speed and other arcs.

Him attacking saying he's fast shows he can counter them not that he's faster than them. The last scan shows the flashes all over him and Prime flies away. That's laughable if you or anyone couldl say look Prime's faster as he flees.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Misinterpretations throughout each and every scan. You aren't fooling anyone with any of these scans. Prime seems to be faster here in the one portrayal in terms of travel speed but who cares flashes sometimes struggle over light speed and other arcs.

Him attacking saying he's fast shows he can counter them not that he's faster than them. The last scan shows the flashes all over him and Prime flies away. That's laughable if you or anyone couldl say look Prime's faster as he flees.

Be specific. What was misrepresented?

To imply that Bart Allen having absorbed the entire speedforce "struggles with lightspeed" is ignorant at best. If you want to lowball characters, that's fine, just be a little more covert about it.

No, it shows that he can counter them and hit all of them before they can react. His statement means nothing, what happened on panel is the focus.

Prime didn't just fly away, he one-shotted both of them. It's also laughable to say that Wally wouldn't be able to react fast enough (thinking/ reacting at the picosecond level) to avoid being KOed for the duration of the battle, if he wasn't.