Supermen vs Gods

Started by Mindset5 pages

Hey Carver, you know the blast is why Glads was flying at 100x the speed of light or w/e Reed measured him going, right?

The more you know.

Not that 100x lightspeed is really all that impressive when you consider the speeds Green Lanterns, Superman, and Surfer, etc have traveled at.

They're all pretty slow compared to Kyle.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not that 100x lightspeed is really all that impressive when you consider the speeds Green Lanterns, Superman, and Surfer, etc have traveled at.

So you have "statements" that indicate that they can fly @ 100 times the speed of light... not KMC caculations? Going by DC logic, light speed can do things that it shouldn't be capable of doing (like flash evak a city before a nuke explode).

Using your logic, Gladiator would be the fastest being on KMC since he covered a universe in a panel.

@Mindset...

That was under Gladiators own power. He flew to Earth at those speeds to meet up with the skrulls. That was the main reason he fought the fantastic four. He easily landed on Earth and slowed down his speed. There was nothing indicating the blast had anything to do with his increase in speed. The blast did next to nothing to him.

Here is the star being born when Glads contained the blast.

http://img267.imageshack.us/i/wtfshipmh5.jpg/

Originally posted by carver9
So you have "statements" that indicate that they can fly @ 100 times the speed of light... not KMC caculations? Going by DC logic, light speed can do things that it shouldn't be capable of doing (like flash evak a city before a nuke explode).

Using your logic, Gladiator would be the fastest being on KMC since he covered a universe in a panel.


Lulz.

Pathetic. It's a matter of simple logic that Oa is a vast, vast distance from Earth because it's in a different Space Sector. If Green Lanterns traveled to Oa at 100x light speed they'd never reach it.

Pretty sure he was unconscious, do you have the scans to the entire comic?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lulz.

Pathetic. It's a matter of simple logic that Oa is a vast, vast distance from Earth because it's in a different Space Sector. If Green Lanterns traveled to Oa at 100x light speed they'd never reach it.

Vulcan is thousands of times faster than light then.

Originally posted by Mindset
Pretty sure he was unconscious, do you have the scans to the entire comic?

Vulcan is thousands of times faster than light then.

Naah, he was 100%.

Here is the next scan.

http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51179916nx5.jpg

He fly down and fight Thing as soon as he lands on Earth.

@Omega...

Quotes are better to use buddy because again, going by the way you are doing things, there would be thousands of characters that are millions of times the speed of light.

Like I said before, Gladiator would be the fastest being on KMC since he has flown from the shiar empire which is located on the other side of the Universe to New York in a panel.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, he was 100%.

Here is the next scan.

http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51179916nx5.jpg

He fly down and fight Thing as soon as he lands on Earth.

@Omega...

Quotes are better to use buddy because again, going by the way you are doing things, there would be thousands of characters that are millions of times the speed of light.

Like I said before, Gladiator would be the fastest being on KMC since he has flown from the shiar empire which is located on the other side of the Universe to New York in a panel.


We can't have quotes for every feat.

Lifting feats for instance. You don't need to say a Cruise Ship is X tons for the reader to intuit that its heavy.

Mindset... don't know if that scan worked or not but here is another one.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/5260/gladiatorvsfantasticfour015yo.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
Pretty sure he was unconscious, do you have the scans to the entire comic?

Vulcan is thousands of times faster than light then.

Are you basing that on an actual feat, rather than Carver's "he flew across galaxies in two weeks" stuff?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Are you basing that on an actual feat, rather than Carver's "he flew across galaxies in two weeks" stuff?
The actual feat of him flying across Galaxies in what seems like the same amount of time it takes GL's to fly to Oa.

Originally posted by Mindset
The actual feat of him flying across Galaxies in what seems like the same amount of time it takes GL's to fly to Oa.

Issue number, please? I could have easily missed it.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
We can't have quotes for every feat.

Lifting feats for instance. You don't need to say a Cruise Ship is X tons for the reader to intuit that its heavy.

Real World logic =/= comic book logic. When will people realize this?

Vulcan flew past planets instantly...1000's if not millions of times the speed of light but when it was time to test his speed, he failed. Gladiator had to save him from a sniper bullet that he was to slow to react to let alone see.

Your logic/caculations fail. There are so many instances contradicting your claims.

Idk the issue number, it happened like 2 years ago.

Originally posted by carver9
Real World logic =/= comic book logic. When will people realize this?

Vulcan flew past planets instantly...1000's if not millions of times the speed of light but when it was time to test his speed, he failed. Gladiator had to save him from a sniper bullet that he was to slow to react to let alone see.

Your logic/caculations fail. There are so many instances contradicting your claims.

Actually no, real world logic = comic book logic.

Logic is universal, you just have to apply it properly. I've been telling you this for years.

What Vulcan feat are you talking about? Because seriously, you don't have a leg to stand on right now...

Originally posted by Mindset
Idk the issue number, it happened like 2 years ago.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Actually no, real world logic = comic book logic.

Logic is universal, you just have to apply it properly. I've been telling you this for years.

What Vulcan feat are you talking about? Because seriously, you don't have a leg to stand on right now...

🙁

I don't get what you are saying.

Let's use the Vulcan scene you are talking about.
How long does it take light to cross Galaxies. It took vulcan 2 weeks. Even with that time period between traveling, that is still FAR above light speed and he shouldn't have needed help at stopping a bullet.

Also... you do know "this" Superman was flying through Galaxies as well? Hell, this Superman has some of the best space flight feat out of all of his counterparts.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/lendsupli.jpg

That's why its not safe to go by Omega style...quotes are far better and more accurate.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't get what you are saying.

Let's use the Vulcan scene you are talking about.
How long does it take light to cross Galaxies. It took vulcan 2 weeks. Even with that time period between traveling, that is still FAR above light speed and he shouldn't have needed help at stopping a bullet.

Also... you do know "this" Superman was flying through Galaxies as well? Hell, this Superman has some of the best space flight feat out of all of his counterparts.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/lendsupli.jpg

That's why its not safe to go by Omega style...quotes are far better and more accurate.

About logic?

Actually no, and I have to admit I'm actually disappointed in you Carver. That "two weeks" crap was something we went over before, and it was proven wrong. You even conceded iirc.

Bringing it back up just comes across as trying to insult my intelligence both as a poster and as a mod, and I have to say I'm not going to take it.

Trolling and baiting like that will only get you warned, and you should know better by now.

and no, that Superman doesn't, but yet again you can't wait to lowball him while overbearingly hyping another character. I honestly shouldn't be surprised.

Originally posted by -Pr-
About logic?

Actually no, and I have to admit I'm actually disappointed in you Carver. That "two weeks" crap was something we went over before, and it was proven wrong. You even conceded iirc.

Bringing it back up just comes across as trying to insult my intelligence both as a poster and as a mod, and I have to say I'm not going to take it.

Trolling and baiting like that will only get you warned, and you should know better by now.

and no, that Superman doesn't, but yet again you can't wait to lowball him while overbearingly hyping another character. I honestly shouldn't be surprised.

OMG... that scan wasn't to low ball. Those are one of the 100's of scans that I have saved on my phone.

One sec... have to post something and Pr... I'm not trying to insult your intelligence. We are debating.

I couldn't find my scan. I was searching for Vulcan flying past planets but I couldn't find it. It happened after his fight against the xmen when he was heading to the Shair base.

But anyways... my point is, Vulcan has light speed showings (via space) but he isn't a true light speedster. I have posted scans a while back proving this and no one was able to counter my argument.

When I said mid or high heralds shouldn't lose to Hulk, I meant outside of jobbing, which Thor obviously does every time he loses to Hulk.