Originally posted by PhilosophíaI agree. The guy did burn up, but it wasn't depicted as if he was some vampire that instantly burns to a crisp upon the briefest exposure to the sun like some people made it out to be.
I'd think the fact that he flew inside the sun should seal it for current J'onn. At least as far as fire seriously hindering him in any battle, unless people start arguing the opponents creating fires on that level, which would be asinine.
As for this fight, both Nova and Blackbolt aren't really hindered by CIS- both tend to make use of all of their powers with relative proficiency- as much as its self imposed limitations on power output for obvious reasons, i.e.Blackbolts voice destroying everything, Nova going crazy and killing everybody.
Originally posted by dmillsYeah- mostly the fact that neither of Team 1 really has the capacity to affect J'onn when he's intangible. Add in his telepathy and he could potentially (imo, definitely) take them down without actually engaging in physical combat with them.
Whats the major hindrance that makes a CISless J'onn some much more formidable that he'd solo two borderline high heralds? Is he holding back power or not utilizing all of his abilities in battle?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17If You've ever read the arc where Jonn becomes Fernus you'd see how amazingly powerful he becomes when he's evil and has no qualms about anything. He single handedly was owning the JLA and only lost when Manitou Raven helped Jonn resist Fernus on the Dreamscape and Fernus gave birth to Jonn. Which im sure did weaken him quite a bit for Jonn to give the kill blow
How would jonn solo cis off??
Originally posted by Superherovandal
If You've ever read the arc where Jonn becomes Fernus you'd see how amazingly powerful he becomes when he's evil and has no qualms about anything. He single handedly was owning the JLA and only lost when Manitou Raven helped Jonn resist Fernus on the Dreamscape and Fernus gave birth to Jonn. Which im sure did weaken him quite a bit for Jonn to give the kill blow
Yeah.. He was just more ruthless.. He wasnt necessarily upgraded.. Akin to WW3 BA..
Originally posted by Existere
Yeah- mostly the fact that neither of Team 1 really has the capacity to affect J'onn when he's intangible. Add in his telepathy and he could potentially (imo, definitely) take them down without actually engaging in physical combat with them.
Standard tp attacks wont work on team 1...
Im not disputing that team 2 can win, but thats a bit much if some think Jonn would easily solo..
Originally posted by celeyhyga17Based on what?
Standard tp attacks wont work on team 1...
Im not disputing that team 2 can win, but thats a bit much if some think Jonn would easily solo..
Neither Black Bolt nor Nova have shown an outright immunity to telepathy, nor have they resisted telepathy on J'onn's level (as far as I'm aware, unless something has changed recently. Seeing as Black Bolt's currently dead, I doubt it on his end).
I never said that he would easily solo. I believe that he could though if we remove 'CIS' (which is a stupid notion in itself, but be that as it may...).
Originally posted by Existere
Based on what?Neither Black Bolt nor Nova have shown an outright immunity to telepathy, nor have they resisted telepathy on J'onn's level (as far as I'm aware, unless something has changed recently. Seeing as Black Bolt's currently dead, I doubt it on his end).
I never said that he would easily solo. I believe that he could though if we remove 'CIS' (which is a stupid notion in itself, but be that as it may...).
Maximus is your not a run of the mill telepath. Resists his mind powers.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/plan11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/plan12.jpg
can directly affect tp'ers offensively
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/maximus.jpg
creates hypno pattern against the Mandarin
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/mandri.jpg
When a child uses his powerful mind to animate a huge statue, Black Bolt controls the child's mind and to stop the statue.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/pattern2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/pattern3.jpg
Uses his electron powers to break the same child's psychic link.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/pattern4.jpg
can even mind blast. prolly through his manipulation of electrons.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/mblasts.jpg
I dont even have to tell u about Nova.. his tp defense is well documented
Originally posted by TricksterPriestInteresting thing about Nova and BB. I think Nova has shown more overall power (in terms of energy output etc) but BB has better showings vs top tiers. Strange.
I don't think Nova can take either of team 2 on his own. And BB would have a hard time stopping Kilowog as well as J'onn.
Anyway imo team 2 are going to have to try and muscle it. Generic tp will be resisted, energy attacks will be absorbed, amped and redirected etc.
