Originally posted by Existere
Oh wow, you're retarded.All that I did was state that the only telepath he's resisted has had a career of fluctuating power levels.
Reading comprehension is your friend.
wutever u say buddy.. looks like u tried to kill two birds with one stone there...
but i'll let that slide..
u still havent explained how the magical way of tp works in the DCU.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17I have no reason to explain it. Burden of proof falls on you.
wutever u say buddy.. looks like u tried to kill two birds with one stone there...
but i'll let that slide..u still havent explained how the magical way of how tp works in the DCU.
Speaking of which: it's only two more letters to change 'u' to 'you'. I think, given your complete failure to communicate throughout this entire thread, the first step to improvement would be appreciating how to actually spell.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Has either of them (Nova and BB, respectfully) resisted a TP attack consisting of all the thoughts of planet Earth, or something equivilent to that?
he affects tp's "mechanics". he wont allow a tp attack to reach that level.
Originally posted by Existere
I have no reason to explain it. Burden of proof falls on you.Speaking of which: it's only two more letters to change 'u' to 'you'. I think, given your complete failure to communicate throughout this entire thread, the first step to improvement would be appreciating how to actually spell.
now I know ure butthurt resorting to spelling...
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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Understood, but is that a blanket wide defense against all TP? And can he do that before said assault occurs? And if not, could he endure such an attack?
I dont see why he cant mount his defense before the attack hits. he is very attuned to the flow of electrons around him.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17What basis do we have to believe that J'onn's telepathy works similarly to marvel telepaths? What basis do we have to believe that Black Bolt can repel the attack of an extremely strong telepath?
now I know ure butthurt resorting to spelling...
Please answer these questions.
Originally posted by -Pr-
celeyhyga, you'd have to prove that j'onn's telepathy is similar to the type that BB blocked, as you can't just take one type of telepathy and say all telepathy is like that.everyone, please keep it civil...
it goes both ways. ure only siding on his view. he hasnt shown anything to suggest that tp mechanics is totally different in both universes. why ask me to prove it when he hasnt?
its like saying the downward spiral of a whirlpool in DCU spins differently (opposite direction) in comparison to one in MU.
why ever debate characters from each universe who are pitted against each other then?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
it goes both ways. ure only siding on his view. he hasnt shown anything to suggest that tp mechanics is totally different in both universes. why ask me to prove it when he hasnt?its like saying the downward spiral of a whirlpool in DCU spins differently (opposite direction) in comparison to one in MU.
why ever debate characters from each universe who are pitted against each other then?
You made the claim first, and I'm not siding with anyone.
Telepathy isn't a real world thing. You're using a Marvel definition of telepathy and applying it to DC, without any sort of basis.
It's nothing like a whirlpool.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You made the claim first, and I'm not siding with anyone.Telepathy isn't a real world thing. You're using a Marvel definition of telepathy and applying it to DC, without any sort of basis.
It's nothing like a whirlpool.
no i didnt
he was the first to say MM's tp would work on BB. which then would sugest he should show me how his "brand" of tp will affect Bolt. which would point to my saying wuts the point of debating these 2 chars from two different universes.
isnt that the same thing?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
no i didnt
he was the first to say MM's tp would work on BB. which then would sugest he should show me how his "brand" of tp will affect Bolt. which would point to my saying wuts the point of debating these 2 chars from two different universes.
isnt that the same thing?
My mistake then. I was referring to the statement that electron disruption would work on J'onn. If he was first, then my bad.
It's not the same thing, because a whirlpool physically exists in the real world (moreso than telepathy, depending on what you believe).
I know what a whirlpool is. We all do. We see them every day, and we have an actual basis for what it is and how it works. Telepathy isn't something that we have a baseline for. Heck, J'onn has a specific organ for telepathy, when most Marvel TP's just use their brains.
I don't mind you arguing that his electron disruption would work on J'onn. You'd just have to prove it.
And as such, yes, Smurph would have to prove that J'onn could hurt BB.
Originally posted by -Pr-
My mistake then. I was referring to the statement that electron disruption would work on J'onn. If he was first, then my bad.It's not the same thing, because a whirlpool physically exists in the real world (moreso than telepathy, depending on what you believe).
I know what a whirlpool is. We all do. We see them every day, and we have an actual basis for what it is and how it works. Telepathy isn't something that we have a baseline for. Heck, J'onn has a specific organ for telepathy, when most Marvel TP's just use their brains.
I don't mind you arguing that his electron disruption would work on J'onn. You'd just have to prove it.
And as such, yes, Smurph would have to prove that J'onn could hurt BB.
point taken.. yeah.. i shoulda come up with something better than a whirlpool..
Originally posted by JakeTheBankYo Jake (still getting used to not seeing Majestic as your Sig). Here you go bro. Harrow seemed to try and overwhelm Nova's mind with the pain and suffering of the victims of worlds that Galactus had devoured or some such. He busted out just fine.
Has either of them (Nova and BB, respectfully) resisted a TP attack consisting of all the thoughts of planet Earth, or something equivilent to that?
Nova's mind is basically protected by two things:
1) the dynamic psionic protocols in his helmet which are reconfigured by the wm if need be to screen out different types of psionics, or
2) directly by the Nova Force itself if need be. He can also lock onto an enemies psionic profile and actively track and engage them that way, even when they're in an invisible or/and intangible form.
Let me know if you want to see more scans of that type of stuff.
Originally posted by dmills
Yo Jake (still getting used to not seeing Majestic as your Sig). Here you go bro. Harrow tried to overwhelm Nova's mind with the pain and suffering of the victims of worlds that Galactus had devoured or some such. He busted out just fine.Nova's mind is basically protected by two things:
1) the dynamic psionic protocols in his helmet which are reconfigured by the wm if need be to screen out different types of psionics, or
2) directly by the Nova Force itself if need be. He can also lock onto an enemies psionic profile and actively track and engage them that way, even when they're in an invisible or/and intangible form.
Let me know if you want to see more scans of it.
I didnt post Nova scans cause I knew u were lurking in the background. I thought to myself, why waste my energy when dmills will prolly make my posts seem like childs play.
btw PR I got ure proof for you. since u asked so nicely(unlike some others)..
this scan should show that TP in the DCU is akin to the flow of electromagnetic waves.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic182.jpg
the "disturbances" that J'onn mentioned should be indicative of that... I rest my case.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17Aww shucks Besties!
I didnt post Nova scans cause I knew u were lurking in the background. I thought to myself, why waste my energy when dmills will prolly make my posts seem like childs play.btw PR I got ure proof for you. since u asked so nicely(unlike some others)..
this scan should show that TP in the DCU is akin to the flow of electromagnetic waves.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic182.jpg
the "disturbances" that J'onn mentioned should be indicative of that... I rest my case.
Looks like a good find. At the very least it shows that on some level certain types of electro magnetic energy can throw off J'onn's tp. Or at the very least it establishes the concept.
Originally posted by dmills
Yo Jake (still getting used to not seeing Majestic as your Sig). Here you go bro. Harrow seemed to try and overwhelm Nova's mind with the pain and suffering of the victims of worlds that Galactus had devoured or some such. He busted out just fine.Nova's mind is basically protected by two things:
1) the dynamic psionic protocols in his helmet which are reconfigured by the wm if need be to screen out different types of psionics, or
2) directly by the Nova Force itself if need be. He can also lock onto an enemies psionic profile and actively track and engage them that way, even when they're in an invisible or/and intangible form.
Let me know if you want to see more scans of that type of stuff.
Ah, cool scans. Ultimately, the main issue will be if their TP defense would work against J'onn's specific TP, but it's nice to see that they (specifically here Nova) do have considerable defenses against telepathy in general it seems. And who knows; maybe I'll switch back over to Majestic someday lol
Does Nova have anymore showings of TP resistance/defenses?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17I fail to see what that proves..? Global weather patterns, global magnetic fields, global satellite feeds, etc. made it a bit more difficult for J'onn to scan the -entire- earth to find a -single- human (Alex Ferguson) -- but he was still able to do so.
this scan should show that TP in the DCU is akin to the flow of electromagnetic waves.http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic182.jpg
the "disturbances" that J'onn mentioned should be indicative of that... I rest my case.
In no way/shape/form does that imply telepathic immunity on BB's end.
Originally posted by Galan007
I fail to see what that proves..? Global weather patterns, global magnetic fields, global satellite feeds, etc. made it a bit more difficult for J'onn to scan the -entire- earth to find a -single- human (Alex Ferguson) -- but he was still able to do so.In no way/shape/form does that imply telepathic immunity on BB's end.
Did you read why electromagnetic waves was even brought up in this thread?
