Star Wars Battle of who's the bigger fanboy.

Originally posted by dadudemon
"Seems the quote directly applies to the pre-chopped and burned Vader directly in context with everything else that was being said...ESPECIALLY if you consider the "you have to be Mace or Yoda" part being followed up with "if Anakin wasn't hurt."

You're so horrendously bias that you will never admit it. It's fact. Anakin could have beaten Sidious in a saber duel before he was chopped and burned. Time frame: immediate."

I see no reason to see it to apply to the "pre-chopped and burned Vader" but rather the hypothetical Anakin that "hadn't got all beat-up".

And you're, "clearly wrong because a saber duel amongst force users is very force intensive. Just because [you] don't understand that, does not make the 'common understanding' correct."

“It is obvious that this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the Force… but by our skills with a lightsaber.” – Count Dooku

Clear diffrence between using solely the force in combat and a lightsaber.

K. Choose to ignore that saber duels are very force intensive. I'll be over here in reality...I mean fiction. I mean the reality created inside of the fictional universe. lulz

Never said any differently.

How much did Dooku use the force against Yoda before it came to saber blows (lol)?

He used the force to thrown objects of a certain weight and to shoot bolts of electricity. Easy. Once again I ask "how much did Anakin use the force in his duel with Dooku?" This time I would like an actual answer rather than dodging it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah I don't think Anakin knew what he was doing then.

Or Vader did and it was an impressive display of power, which Sidious found pleasing, cos his new puppet was still a very powerful weapon. Hence Sidious' creepy smile.

Originally posted by Robtard
Or Vader did and it was an impressive display of power, which Sidious found pleasing, cos his new puppet was still a very powerful weapon. Hence Sidious' creepy smile.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Or Vader was distraught at Padme's death.

Yes, it's obvious he was. What he did is still a measure of his power, it's not like he loses it after he's no longer pussy-whipped.

Is this what you're arguing; that It's some sort of one-time trick?

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, it's obvious he was. What he did is still a measure of his power, it's not like he loses it after he's no longer pussy-whipped.

Is this what you're arguing; that It's some sort of one-time trick?

If Vader was in that state of mind again, he could probably replicate it.

You arguing that he knew what he was doing?

Or it's just the level of his power, cos he's Vader and had a midi-chlorian count higher than Yoda. That.

Originally posted by Robtard
Or it's just the level of his power, cos he's Vader and had a midi-chlorian count higher than Yoda. That.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Nuh uh. Cuz he lost four limbs and had a lot of his flesh burned away. So he's probably down to like 12,000 midichlorians from the 20,000+ he had to begin with. So really he's a lot weaker now.

Originally posted by ares834
I see no reason to see it to apply to the "pre-chopped and burned Vader" but rather the hypothetical Anakin that "hadn't got all beat-up".

"You're so horrendously bias that you will never admit it. It's fact. Anakin could have beaten Sidious in a saber duel before he was chopped and burned. Time frame: immediate."

Originally posted by ares834
“It is obvious that this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the Force… but by our skills with a lightsaber.” – Count Dooku

Clear diffrence between using solely the force in combat and a lightsaber.

"And you're clearly wrong because a saber duel amongst force users is very force intensive. Just because you don't understand that, does not make the common understanding correct."

Originally posted by ares834
Never said any differently.

AHA! I got you. So you've been arguing in circles on purpose just to argue? I figured. That's why I've been requoting myself. You're not bringing anything new to the discussion so I figured I'd help you argue with yourself...which was strangely working. 😬

Originally posted by ares834
He used the force to thrown objects of a certain weight and to shoot bolts of electricity. Easy. Once again I ask "how much did Anakin use the force in his duel with Dooku?" This time I would like an actual answer rather than dodging it.

Observe:

Originally posted by dadudemon
K. Choose to ignore that saber duels are very force intensive.

Originally posted by ares834
Never said any differently.

You troll much, bro?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightsaber_duel

That word gets thrown around way too often.

Originally posted by dadudemon
"You're so horrendously bias that you will never admit it. It's fact. Anakin could have beaten Sidious in a saber duel before he was chopped and burned. Time frame: immediate."

"I see no reason to see it to apply to the "pre-chopped and burned Vader" but rather the hypothetical Anakin that "hadn't got all beat-up"."

You still have to equate these two for your statment to be correct.

You're so horrendously bias that you will never admit it. It's fact. Sidious would have owned RotS Anakin.

"And you're clearly wrong because a saber duel amongst force users is very force intensive. Just because you don't understand that, does not make the common understanding correct."

So you once again countine to ignore everything I brought up. The fact remains there is a clear distinction in using the force to attack and using the force in a saber duel. Dooku himself bring up the distinction between the two. But apparently you believe you know more about the force than him...

Spoiler:
You don't.

Also I am still wondering if you will answer my question. I want proof that Anakin most impressive display of the force was defeating Dooku?

AHA! I got you. So you've been arguing in circles on purpose just to argue? I figured. That's why I've been requoting myself. You're not bringing anything new to the discussion so I figured I'd help you argue with yourself...which was strangely working. 😬

If by "help you argue with yourself" you mean fail to address every point I have than yes you do...

You troll much, bro?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightsaber_duel

Yep, I'm the one trolling. Say whatever you need to sleep at night.

Originally posted by ares834
"I see no reason to see it to apply to the "pre-chopped and burned Vader" but rather the hypothetical Anakin that "hadn't got all beat-up"."

You still have to equate these two for your statment to be correct.

You're so horrendously bias that you will never admit it. It's fact. Sidious would have owned RotS Anakin.

"The quote directly applies to the pre-chopped and burned Vader directly in context with everything else that was being said...ESPECIALLY if you consider the "you have to be Mace or Yoda" part being followed up with "if Anakin wasn't hurt."

You're so horrendously bias that you will never admit it. It's fact. Anakin could have beaten Sidious in a saber duel before he was chopped and burned. Time frame: immediate."

Originally posted by ares834
So you once again countine to ignore everything I brought up.

No, that's you.

Originally posted by ares834
The fact remains there is a clear distinction in using the force to attack and using the force in a saber duel.

Yeah, it's quite obvious what that is: one is using just force powers with their mind and the other is using force powers with and while moving their body. One is more of a test of the force than the other. I'll give you a hint...it's not throwing lightning and testing TK abilities.

Originally posted by ares834
Dooku himself bring up the distinction between the two. But apparently you believe you know more about the force than him...

Spoiler:
You don't.

I'll give you a hint why you don't get it: you have too much bias to think clearly and think that a fictional character knows more than I do about a fictional universe.

And "knowledge of the force" != using the force.

Originally posted by ares834
Also I am still wondering if you will answer my question. I want proof that Anakin most impressive display of the force was defeating Dooku?

That's easy: watch the damn movie. 😬

The proof is literally that Anakin defeated him.

Originally posted by ares834
If by "help you argue with yourself" you mean fail to address every point I have than yes you do...

If by "fail to address every point I have" then, yes, you're talking about your own fail.

Originally posted by ares834
Yep, I'm the one trolling. Say whatever you need to sleep at night.

It's quite clear you are when you just admitted that saber duels are very force intensive.

You guys should call me. I can get you a mad discount on a hotel room.

Originally posted by dadudemon
"The quote directly applies to the pre-chopped and burned Vader directly in context with everything else that was being said...ESPECIALLY if you consider the "you have to be Mace or Yoda" part being followed up with "if Anakin wasn't hurt."

You're so horrendously bias that you will never admit it. It's fact. Anakin could have beaten Sidious in a saber duel before he was chopped and burned. Time frame: immediate."

Concession accepted.

No, that's you.

kk

Yeah, it's quite obvious what that is: one is using just force powers with their mind and the other is using force powers with and while moving their body.

Yep, two very diffrent and distinct things. Glad you agree.

One is more of a test of the force than the other. I'll give you a hint...it's not throwing lightning and testing TK abilities.

Which is why any ordinary Joe can swing a saber, but only the true masters rely on strict force usage. Yes?

I'll give you a hint... it's not.

I'll give you a hint why you don't get it: you have too much bias to think clearly and think that a fictional character knows more than I do about a fictional universe.

Bias? Lol I'm not the one saying Anakin is greater than Sidious when everything points to the opposite. And yes, said fictional character would know more aboust said fictional world. I mean he only lives there and has merely studied the force his entire life.

And "knowledge of the force" != using the force.

Dooku himself made a distinction between using the force for an attack and using it in a saber duel. Countine to ignore it if you wish.

That's easy: watch the damn movie. 😬

The proof is literally that Anakin defeated him.

K, how does that prove anything? How much did he rely on skill and how much on force aptitude? And still my question remains how is this his most impressive force feat?

If by "fail to address every point I have" then, yes, you're talking about your own fail.

Yep, I'm the one repeating irrelivant and false statements that contradict everything shown in the move.

It's quite clear you are when you just admitted that saber duels are very force intensive.

Lol what? Just because they are "force intensive" doesn't mean it's Anakin's most impressive force feat...

Saber duels are Force intensive in the novelizations. The movies just have them swinging glowrods.

Spoiler:
Sorry, ares

Sorry for what? If anything that helps my argument!

Oh. I find it hard to follow these broken-quoted arguments sometimes.

Ahaha he said rod.

Originally posted by ares834
Concession accepted.

Oh oh! One of these. Here:

I'm glad you concede.

Originally posted by ares834
Yep, two very diffrent and distinct things. Glad you agree.

Nope, both are heavy on the force and concentration. 🙂

Originally posted by ares834
Which is why any ordinary Joe can swing a saber, but only the true masters rely on strict force usage. Yes?

I'll give you a hint... it's not.

I'll give you another hint: you could not be more wrong. 🙂

Originally posted by ares834
Bias? Lol I'm not the one saying Anakin is greater than Sidious when everything points to the opposite.

Please quote me where I said Anakin or pre-suit Vader is greater tahn Sidious at everything.

🙂

Originally posted by ares834
And yes, said fictional character would know more aboust said fictional world. I mean he only lives there and has merely studied the force his entire life.

No, sorry, that's no how it works. While you are stuck inside of la la land of fantasy, I'll be over here, in reality.

Originally posted by ares834
Dooku himself made a distinction between using the force for an attack and using it in a saber duel. Countine to ignore it if you wish.

And this only leads to another reason why you fail. The distinction was knowledge, not using the actual force. Yoda actively used the force non-stop while dueling Dooku, as did Dooku. How is this different than using the force intermittantly to TK shit? Oh, right: you're stuck in bias fantasy land where you cannot discern reality for fiction.

Good job and missing the point, yet again, on a pivotal moment in the films. 👆

Originally posted by ares834
K, how does that prove anything? How much did he rely on skill and how much on force aptitude? And still my question remains how is this his most impressive force feat?

The question has been answered already and you've admitted the most important element that supports what I'm saying.

You can do better at trolling: try harder.

Originally posted by ares834
Yep, I'm the one repeating irrelivant and false statements that contradict everything shown in the move.

I know you are. I'd appreciate it if you'd stop.

Originally posted by ares834
Lol what? Just because they are "force intensive" doesn't mean it's Anakin's most impressive force feat...

ohhhh! Thank you for clearing that up! I had NO idea that is what your angle was.

😬

So you think TK is the most impressive use of the force, eh? 😆

Originally posted by dadudemon

Please quote me where I said Anakin or pre-suit Vader is greater tahn Sidious at everything.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Anakin or pre-suit Vader is greater tahn Sidious at everything.