X-Force VS Wonder Woman, Batman, & Hawkman

Started by Prep-Man7 pages

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I am not saying it did. I am saying, because she de-powered, may prevent her from utilizing all the abilities.

I am also saying that we dont simply assume they use the best or greatest abilities first or every time. We base it off consistency, minus pis, plus cis. Just becuase characters posses the potential to do an ability does not mean they will the majority of the time or close to it.

But she was using it recently...

Originally posted by Prep-Man
He has constantly used it. It's standard.

I understand he carries it on him, I mean constantly using punches capable of putting superman through a loop.

Just becuase some one did something, does not equate to that attach being or always beeing at that level or close to it. We dont assume ever attack IF does is max ability, why assume hawlkman? Unless you have evidence he use it to such level consistently.

Same reason I don't assume auto mind rape. Sure Psylocke a powerful telepath, but she does not consistently or close to it, utilizes her powers to shut off minds despite being capable.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I understand he carries it on him, I mean constantly using punches capable of putting superman through a loop.

Just becuase some one did something, does not equate to that attach being or always beeing at that level or close to it. We dont assume ever attack IF does is max ability, why assume hawlkman? Unless you have evidence he use it to such level consistently.

Same reason I don't assume auto mind rape. Sure Psylocke a powerful telepath, but she does not consistently or close to it, utilizes her powers to shut off minds despite being capable.

He's done it more than once. And that was Nth metal does, anyway...

Originally posted by Prep-Man
But she was using it recently...

yes, I understand that. Your not getting my point. I dont deny she can due it standard abilities, but what about the more unique and powerful abilities.

Never did it state she can only do JUST the standard abilities. Since she sees the truth, it's safe to say she can do anything. Besides, I think she just remembered who she was, so she's back.

BTW, Claw of Horus draws the earths magnetic field to amplify it's punching power.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
He's done it more than once. And that was Nth metal does, anyway...

again not denying it. I dont think you understand what CIS means. He in characters, the fact he done it more then once is irrelevant. I not denying he can do it. I am saying he won't the majority of the time. Let a lone every single attack. Which is why majority of the time he not swinging with superman level blows. Also think it requires energy to do such attacks.

Nth metal does not make his blows superman looping. It allows him to fly, makes him low level to perhaps mid level superhuman with decent healing factor.

Read the edit, also, WW can fly as well.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Never did it state she can only do JUST the standard abilities.

Yes and neither did it state she could use all it abilities.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
sees the truth, it's safe to say she can do anything. Besides, I think she just remembered who she was, so she's back.

Seeing the truth, is one of it most basic abilities. That far from proves she can do thing like blow people up with it, like she did in the past among other abilities.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
BTW, Claw of Horus draws the earths magnetic field to amplify it's punching power.

Yes which if not mistaken, is not unlimited nor is instantly or capable of repeated superman level blows or close to it. Your taking him at his most extreme and passing it off as the norm.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Read the edit, also, WW can fly as well.

what edit.

No she can't unless this is a new development, because from what I understand she no longer posses flight and significantly decreased speed.

No, I mean she sees the truth. She doesn't remember who she is. Last issue she remembers and she seems back to her old self. Like I said, this is only brief.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
No, I mean she sees the truth. She doesn't remember who she is. Last issue she remembers and she seems back to her old self. Like I said, this is only brief.

I get that it brief. But it irrelevant. the debate is how de-powered ww and her team would fair. We all know how classic WW would fair.

Well, we use current. And current seems back to her old self.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Well, we use current. And current seems back to her old self.

except the fact the thread maker clearly implied that this was de-powered diana. Also she done nothing so far to suggest she back to classic self.

Oh, I didn't see that, but I still say the lasso is key.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Oh, I didn't see that, but I still say the lasso is key.

dont worry, it was kinda unclear he worded it wierd.

What will she do with the lasso? Also remember that Fantomx misdirrection will be going off. Then remember psylocke a telepath, Angles wings can be fired at range and capable of paralyzing foes.

Also deathlok. And de-powered WW, might be weaker if not significantly weaker then deathlok. However I am uncertain, becuase I yet to see her strength showings. However if what was suggested earlier that she just spidy strength level, then she signicantly weaker then deathlok.

I thought you guys were arguing for classic WW being mind screwed! 😂

This all makes sense.

BTW, if WW gets them in the lasso, they will bend to her will.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I thought you guys were arguing for classic WW being mind screwed! 😂

This all makes sense.

BTW, if WW gets them in the lasso, they will bend to her will.


Naw lol.

yup

I dont see that easy to accomplish, when you have guy flying around shooting paralyzing metal feathers, fantomex firing misdirects and psylocke utilizing both telepath and TK.

Also I not sure the lasso, would even work on deathlok.

Ok, if it's current WW, she is screwed!

And Lasso works on everyone, even gods/cyborgs.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Ok, if it's current WW, she is screwed!

And Lasso works on everyone, even gods/cyborgs.


lol

But he not a normal cyborg. There nothing to really reach, his human selfs are pycho killers if not mistaken, which only let of there leash some times, and dont posses control over his body. In fact, I think he run/directed by the machine part of him. So I not sure it would work, she could reach his two "guests" but that won't accomplish much. Might even give her false sense of security.

The only beings that were able to resist it are magical in nature. I don't remember anyone who has resisted it.

The Lasso has even destroyed dead beings like Black Lanterns. It would seriously **** up Dethlok.