I do think SS could at least put up a much better fight agaisnt Thanos if he used all his powers to their fullest.
Shields, speed and maneuvrability. People forget that not only does surfer have speed but he's very very maneuvrable.. I mean He maneuvers through astreoid fields with ease!
And please of course he has super reflexes. If he didnt, every time he flies at light speed he'd be hitting planets, stars, meteors e.t.c.
Originally posted by h1a8They can't react to light speed nor can they react to billions of times the speed of light.
But mere humans can react to tenths of a second. Thanos is not human and should also be able to react to a half of second as well.
You try reading comics. You seem to only look at the pretty pictures of Thanos.
I do read comics you don't even do that much. You just imagine crazy things and contradict the writers who give us our arguments. We don't just dream up stuff out of pure bias.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They can't react to light speed nor can they react to billions of times the speed of light.I do read comics you don't even do that much. You just imagine crazy things and contradict the writers who give us our arguments. We don't just dream up stuff out of pure bias.
Of course they can. If you were flying a ship towards the sun at light speed you could easily maneuver around it in enough time. After all, u would only need 8 minute reflexes to do so.
And millions or billions of times the speed of light can be reacted to if the distance is large enough in order for the response time to be half of second or more. This is common sense.
If Thanos sensed SS a half second away then all he would need is half second reflexes.
Now if SS moved at that speed from up close (not from a light year back) then Thanos would have no time to even move a nanometer.
Originally posted by BouboumasterBeing more powerful doesn't imply an automatic win. Real debaters know this and make believe debaters don't.
I like how hia8 want to rewrite passed episodes of comics that clearly established Thanos as a much more powerful dude that Surfer.
Originally posted by h1a8You wouldn't know it was coming until it was too late remember this is light speed.
Of course they can. If you were flying a ship towards the sun at light speed you could easily maneuver around it in enough time. After all, u would only need 8 minute reflexes to do so.And millions or billions of times the speed of light can be reacted to if the distance is large enough in order for the response time to be half of second or more. This is common sense.
If Thanos sensed SS a half second away then all he would need is half second reflexes.
Now if SS moved at that speed from up close (not from a light year back) then Thanos would have no time to even move a nanometer.
Being more powerful doesn't imply an automatic win. Real debaters know this and make believe debaters don't.
Not unless you have the reflexes to do so and Thanos showed he has them.
You can't sense someone unless you have the reflexes to act as Thanos showed.
Surfer wouldn't have the element of surprise he needed in order to do so. The comic made it clear but you don't read comics you look at scans.
Being more powerful, smarter, more durable, and having abilities to negate speed equals a win especially when the comics have bent over backwards to show you Surfer isn't in Thanos' league.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You wouldn't know it was coming until it was too late remember this is light speed.Not unless you have the reflexes to do so and Thanos showed he has them.
You can't sense someone unless you have the reflexes to act as Thanos showed.
Surfer wouldn't have the element of surprise he needed in order to do so. The comic made it clear but you don't read comics you look at scans.
Being more powerful, smarter, more durable, and having abilities to negate speed equals a win especially when the comics have bent over backwards to show you Surfer isn't in Thanos' league.
I would be able to sense the sun if I traveled towards it at light speed.
I would know I am approaching the sun well before it was too late.
And sensing something has nothing to do with reflexes but rather senses themselves (sight, hearing, radar, cosmic senses, etc.).
Originally posted by h1a8That doesn't matter no human being can avoid someone fighting someone else coming at speeds billions of time the speed of light. That's the point no amount of distance would ever see you since you'd never be able to sense someone traveling at those speeds.
I would be able to sense the sun if I traveled towards it at light speed.
I would know I am approaching the sun well before it was too late.And sensing something has nothing to do with reflexes but rather senses themselves (sight, hearing, radar, cosmic senses, etc.).
Thanos reacted according to his senses. You make no sense as always.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't matter no human being can avoid someone fighting someone else coming at speeds billions of time the speed of light. That's the point no amount of distance would ever see you since you'd never be able to sense someone traveling at those speeds.Thanos reacted according to his senses. You make no sense as always.
What are you talking about? Everyone in comics including humans can see things when they are traveling far excess the speed of light, providing they are far enough away.
It took Surfer a few seconds at most to get to Thanos. All Thanos needed to do was react to Surfer a fraction of the time Surfer spent traveling. So if Thanos noticed Surfer half a second away (in which Surfer was miles and miles away) then he would have enough time to react without actually having super speed or reflexes.
Originally posted by h1a8
What are you talking about? Everyone in comics including humans can see things when they are traveling far excess the speed of light, providing they are far enough away.
It took Surfer a few seconds at most to get to Thanos. All Thanos needed to do was react to Surfer a fraction of the time Surfer spent traveling. So if Thanos noticed Surfer half a second away (in which Surfer was miles and miles away) then he would have enough time to react without actually having super speed or reflexes.
the whole point of him being that far away in the first place was so thanos couldnt react...no?
otherwise he would have done it from much closer
The whole point was so he could gain speed. Maybe to stay outside his senses while gathering speed. But, no. You don't need light speed reflexes to dodge something coming at you at light speed. You can get in the house before the 8 minutes it takes for the sunlight to reach you. You're confusing uber speed with instantaneous.
Originally posted by h1a8The entire point of him being far away was to catch Thanos by surprise. If Surfer was 30 feet in front of him he'd never have the opportunity to catch Thanos by surprise.
What are you talking about? Everyone in comics including humans can see things when they are traveling far excess the speed of light, providing they are far enough away.
It took Surfer a few seconds at most to get to Thanos. All Thanos needed to do was react to Surfer a fraction of the time Surfer spent traveling. So if Thanos noticed Surfer half a second away (in which Surfer was miles and miles away) then he would have enough time to react without actually having super speed or reflexes.
Originally posted by long pigI think so yes.
Question quanch: If Surfer throws a punch at Thanos 2 feet away, and that punch is moving faster than the speed of light, does Thanos have the reactions to dodge it or parry it?
Originally posted by long pigNot the same thing at all. If a baseball is coming at me at light speed I won't be able to dodge it as it won't even register in my world it will just strike me.
Quan, Go outside tonight, eight minutes before dawn go inside and wait for dawn. Congratulations, you dodged something moving at you at light speed. You must have super reaction.
Originally posted by quanchi112Dammit....I can't believe what I'm about to say but I'm slowly starting to respect you. You're not fanboying out, you're making valid points and you're not insulting everyone who disagrees with you. Keep it up, bro. :tu:
The entire point of him being far away was to catch Thanos by surprise. If Surfer was 30 feet in front of him he'd never have the opportunity to catch Thanos by surprise.I think so yes.
Not the same thing at all. If a baseball is coming at me at light speed I won't be able to dodge it as it won't even register in my world it will just strike me.
If we were to use the proven rule of threes when trying to prove Thanos's speed, it would in like this: 1. You'd need a feat where he dodges light speed. 2. You'd need a feat where he OFFENSIVELY attacks at lightspeed. 3. There would need be shown either a feat where the narrator or a handbook mentions he has LS speed ability. It's a very clinical and effective way to prove a truth. So, can you meet those requirements, quan?
Originally posted by long pigI never said Thanos had this type of speed just the reflexes to combat this speed.
If we were to use the proven rule of threes when trying to prove Thanos's speed, it would in like this: 1. You'd need a feat where he dodges light speed. 2. You'd need a feat where he OFFENSIVELY attacks at lightspeed. 3. There would need be shown either a feat where the narrator or a handbook mentions he has LS speed ability. It's a very clinical and effective way to prove a truth. So, can you meet those requirements, quan?
Originally posted by long pigMove no but react yes.
Also, about your basecall analogy, quan. You don't need lightspeed reactions to track lightspeed objects Deathstroke has been said and shown to be able to track LS objects, does that mean he can move that fast?
Thanos also showed the reflexes to easily stop Thor's hammer or negate Fallen One's rush.