Originally posted by Mindsetif you want to do that then don't debate just go with what the comics say. Congratulations you have just invalidated the entire board considering ABC logic doesn't work on forum.
The whole point of the versus forum is to use characters that don't exist, but power sets that do?Ok, gotcha.
What's incredible is that the Thanos haters want to prove at all cost that Thanos that he would loose to some heralds, while it was shown time and time again that he can whoop them.
Surfer is, IMO, the most powerful herald character. I see him at the top, followed (or equal to Thor), and just behind, Superman. One could argue that Thor is more powerful that Surfer, but in overall, these three have shown power, versatility and overall feats that put him ahead of everyone else in their weight class.
Thanos and Surfer met a lot in the past, and I don't remember Surfer hurting or faze Thanos a single time. We saw Genis-Vell going all out on Thanos and Walker, and both were unfazed. We saw Thanos killing Surfer in less then 10 punches. We saw him, and his chair, not hurt (or broke) after Surfer shooting a mighty bolt at them (stated on panel by Surfer himself). We saw Surfer being swapped like a fly by Odin, while Thanos taking his best shot. He still lost at the end, but Odin had to work for it. Against Tyrant, this is even more impressive, when Thanos fought a dude who laid waste in BRB, Gladiator and yes, even Surfur's face. In a old ass scan, Thanos destroyed both Thor and Thing with eye beams.
In the recent Thanos Imperative Arc, Lord Mar-Vell stomped Surfer, and Thanos would have shit on him if this is what he wanted.
The only instance where Surfer have the better of Thanos is when DOCTOR STRANGE bring them both in the astral plane.
This is consistancy. Heralds is proved to not being able to beat, let alone kill, Thanos. Drax of course, is the exception to that rule, but in that case, it could be said that a mere rock can kill Superman. What Surfer can do, Thanos has an argument to that. He got the reflexes to follow the speed his enemies can use, he got the endurance to tank anything, the power to overcome the strenght, he got the technology to block the most powerful attacks, the tp and tp shields to stop even the most powerful telepaths, his nature makes him impossible to mess with his body via matter manipulation, etc.
I mean, jeez, guys! I don't know what's your problem.
Originally posted by h1a8Name me all these class 100 people Surfer can and has amped past that have given Thanos trouble
[B]Surfer can amp to higher levels to hurt Thanos. Surfer can punch Thanos since Thanos is more durable to energy projection than high class 100 punches.
Surfer can use blackholes (someone Thanos has a problem with)Thanos teleports out of them,end of problem,
Surfer can assault Thanos with his board,😂 seriously, using that tactic couldnt even put Beta ray bill down.
There are many ways for Surfer to hurt Thanos. Just showing a scan where a blast does nothing is faulty. For it doesn't take into consideration other means of attack or amping.Ill wait for you to come up with some solid reasons for once.
Originally posted by Philosophía
The black hole is the only chance Surfer has - and that's assuming he use it at the start and gets to do it before Thanos blats him down and beats him to death.
That's the inconsistency with Starlin. Black holes can harm Thanos. Thanos also threatened to nuke himself and the heroes including Thor, Warlock, Drax, Strange, and Surfer among the group at the end of IG. I wouldn't be surprise if Surfer was harmed a black hole under Starlin as well.
With that said, Thanos has consistently walked all over herald levelers with out amping himself at all. The only way this ends in a stalemate is if Surfer avoids Thanos' attack all together while Thanos ignores Surfer's futile attempt. Let's put it this way, the Surfer has PC while Thanos is an Eternal Titan that was upgraded by Mistress Death.
Thanos 10/10.
Originally posted by Uriel005facepalm
if you want to do that then don't debate just go with what the comics say. Congratulations you have just invalidated the entire board considering ABC logic doesn't work on forum.
No to the first part of your post, because we don't have PIS here. Second part of your post doesn't even make sense in regards to anything being discussed.
Originally posted by h1a8Except surfer has no way of hurting thanos. As shown on panel at least 10 times.
Surfer can amp to higher levels to hurt Thanos. Surfer can punch Thanos since Thanos is more durable to energy projection than high class 100 punches. Surfer can use blackholes (someone Thanos has a problem with), Surfer can assault Thanos with his board, etc.There are many ways for Surfer to hurt Thanos. Just showing a scan where a blast does nothing is faulty. For it doesn't take into consideration other means of attack or amping.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Name me all these class 100 people Surfer can and has amped past that have given Thanos trouble Thanos teleports out of them,end of problem, 😂 seriously, using that tactic couldnt even put Beta ray bill down.Ill wait for you to come up with some solid reasons for once.
Surfer can simply amp to levels that can seriously hurt him. Remember a star is in the battlefield that Surfer can use. Thanos is resistant to energy projection. But not so much to punches. Look at what Surfer did to Bill with just a punch.
Thanos may teleport out of black holes but not before they seriously mess him up.
The board did put bill down. Surfer was trying to reason with Bill, not kill him. Surfer can send the board at Thanos 1000 times the speed of light. This would probably decapitate him easily.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Thanos can tank them, and can tp away if needed.
No he can't. He was seriously injured just by entering the event horizion.
If he messes with the actual singularity then he is a dead duck.
Originally posted by vince_slice
I'm pretty sure the only time Thanos was hurt by a black hole was the one in Infinity Abyss, but that one was four light-years in diameter. I don't think Surfer has enough power to create a black hole large enough to suck in several hundred solar systems.
Black holes are singularities (they are not light years in distance), the smallest of black holes can pull anything from anywhere. It's the universal law of gravity.
Originally posted by h1a8Thanos' best durability feat is to punches, and people have stated this many times to you...
Surfer can simply amp to levels that can seriously hurt him. Remember a star is in the battlefield that Surfer can use. Thanos is resistant to energy projection. But not so much to punches. Look at what Surfer did to Bill with just a punch.
The consistency of opinion between long pig, uriel, and h1 is almost uncanny. Strange that so many DC'ers should argue so vociferously on Surfer's behalf, when so many surfer fans give Thanos the win...
I don't think even a black hole will give surfer the win here. Surfer's only way of beating Thanos, as I see it, would be to go back and time and prevent him from acquiring his powers in the first place.