Originally posted by long pigExcept Jake isn't like every other grappler he has faced, because he is better than all of them.
That was the only way i could phrase it. What I mean is Jake, just like every other grappler he's faced, has tons of credentials and titles and GSP has none. KOS was a D1 wrestling champ, but got out wrestled by a guy who's wrestled for what.....less than ten years? Same with Fitch. Hughs too. They are all more skilled at actual wrestling, but GSP is able to apply it better. I'm sure a lot of it is due to superior athleticism, but whatever. He's going to out wrestle jake, and whatever he lacks in bjj, if anything, he'll make up with superior execution. Isn't he a gracie black belt, too? Under Henzo i think. Maybe not. I hope jake wins though. It'd be a great upset to witness.
Originally posted by MindsetAnd so was GSP. So much better it wasn't even a fight. GSP's grappling was way better than Penn's. Although shields is better than Penn, but not by a lot. Either way....I'm going out on a limb and change my prediction to shields winning.
Except Jake isn't like every other grappler he has faced, because he is better than all of them.
Originally posted by long pigIf Gsp's grappling is way better than Penn's, then so is Jake's.
And so was GSP. So much better it wasn't even a fight. GSP's grappling was way better than Penn's. Although shields is better than Penn, but not by a lot. Either way....I'm going out on a limb and change my prediction to shields winning.
Originally posted by batdude123i've been excommunicated from the church of fox. a chaos offer to lose every 5 years. It always makes them better. The gsp who lost to hughs wasn't even related to the gsp who beat hughs. The gsp who lost to serra wasn't the same as the gsp who avenged that loss. Everytime he lost he got 10x better in the area he got beat in. After being submitted, he did the gracie bjj thing and his wrestling got world class. after gettin k.o'd, he got freddy roach and now his boxing is on the way to being world class. Losing makes better. But, seeing my fav super human get beat is gonna suck. He is super human literally. He was on sports science and they said he doesnt produce lactic acid like normal people. That's some captain america shit right there.
You're dead to me.
Originally posted by MindsetWe can't know for sure until jake and penn fight. That's the only reason i can say gsp's was way better. There is proof of it. Until bj and jake fight, i'll just say he's better. But I'm sure you'll be proven right if they do fight.
If Gsp's grappling is way better than Penn's, then so is Jake's.
Originally posted by MindsetCo-sign^
Because it's not science.This is the same show that said GSP hits harder than Cain and Rampage and kicks harder than Shogun. Every time a new fighter is on the show they hit harder than the last.
Anatomically, it's impossible for a punch to generate more force than a kick.
Originally posted by guy222
pulling for jake
Me too. A six-year, 15-fight undefeated streak is nothing to sneeze at. Not even the almighty GSP can claim that.
On UFC Primetime GSP even said himself that people who believe he's gonna plow through Shields are just fooling themselves. "If you go in there thinking you're gonna walk all over Jake Shields, then he's gonna walk all over you." - Greg Jackson, GSP's own coach.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Me too. A six-year, 15-fight undefeated streak is nothing to sneeze at. Not even the almighty GSP can claim that.On UFC Primetime GSP even said himself that people who believe he's gonna plow through Shields are just fooling themselves. "If you go in there thinking you're gonna walk all over Jake Shields, then he's gonna walk all over you." - Greg Jackson, GSP's own coach.
Everything you just said is verbatim what was said about GSP vs Fitch... and GSP dominated Fitch for five rounds... and Fitch is better than Shields. 😎