UFC 129 Predictions and Discussion

Started by srankmissingnin5 pages

Originally posted by Mindset
What is Fitch better than Jake at, it definitely isn't grappling.

They faced each other in a grappling match and Shields subbed him, granted it was in 05, but I don't see what would change...Shields is still better.

Fitch is the equal of Shields on the ground, and he at least has some semblance of a stand up game. Fitch is just better all round.

Fitch also beat Shields in a grappling contest in '04 when he was only a white belt in BJJ. They are 1-1.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Fitch is the equal of Shields on the ground, and he at least has some semblance of a stand up game. Fitch is just better all round.

Fitch also beat Shields in a grappling contest in '04 when he was only a white belt in BJJ. They are 1-1.

He's his equal based on what?

And what was Shields, blue?

Shields has a better in and out of mma grappling resume.

Anyway, Shields via k1 striking resulting in a brutal KO in the 1st.

He's bringing that belt back home to Merica.

Deal with it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Fitch is the equal of Shields on the ground, and he at least has some semblance of a stand up game. Fitch is just better all round.

Fitch also beat Shields in a grappling contest in '04 when he was only a white belt in BJJ. They are 1-1.

Are you just rooting for your fellow countryman, or do you actually think that Shields doesn't have a legitimate shot? 15 straight victories is an objective measure to go by. Not many fighters can claim that.

Yo, Mindset...

Although I'll admit, that wasn't a very impressive performance.

Also, Randy...

YouTube video

🙁

Did you really think I thought he was gonna win?

I just was hoping he'd beat Georges Snore Pierre.

YouTube video

Look at him swagger jacking Silva.

I really liked Machida's Crane style Stepping Bird technique.

Who ever thought that The Natural would ever be knocked out by something like that...

I retract my statement about gsp's striking. That was a terrible fight. Gsp regressed or something. Wtf was wrong with Aldo? Or is hominick a better striker than people realized? Without the tds, aldo would have lost.

Originally posted by Mindset
Because it's not science.

This is the same show that said GSP hits harder than Cain and Rampage and kicks harder than Shogun. Every time a new fighter is on the show they hit harder than the last.

I can't argue with you there. The few i've seen have followed that pattern.

Maybe all this GSP v Anderson will stop now. GSP would get murdered.

Originally posted by long pig
I retract my statement about gsp's striking. That was a terrible fight. Gsp regressed or something. Wtf was wrong with Aldo? Or is hominick a better striker than people realized? Without the tds, aldo would have lost.

Too be fair GSP couldn't see out of his left eye for three and a half rounds. That is a pretty big handicap.

Originally posted by long pig
I retract my statement about gsp's striking. That was a terrible fight. Gsp regressed or something. Wtf was wrong with Aldo? Or is hominick a better striker than people realized? Without the tds, aldo would have lost.

Homnick certainly wouldt have won withou the TDs. Aldo had much more significant strikes on the feet and even knocked him down twice. He was also slipping and countering homnick very well with fanastic head movement for long stretches of the fight. However it was clear that after round 1, he was certainly not a his best, as he gassed heavily likely due to a bad weight cut coming off surgery. He is still a young fighter and so these things happen this early on in ones career. It seemed a lot like aldos takedown were done so he could rest on he floor, more han anything Rogan was simply seeing things, with all those claims of homnick outstriking aldo or what not, heck he was seeing things throughout the whole night with some heavily biased commentary.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Too be fair GSP couldn't see out of his left eye for three and a half rounds. That is a pretty big handicap.
Shields should get credit for messing his eye up, that's part of the game. Although I heard it was a eye poke that messed his eye up rather than a punch. If that's true then hats off to GSP for still winning with one eye.

Sad that GSP didn't finished Shields. Also, Shields has stop the strike of round winning of the champ.

Still GSP remain the greatest WW in the world. I'd love to see him fight Diaz and give a rematch to Fitch before, if he has to do it, moving against Silva

My oh my. GSP striking is so good he can't even finish Shields. But this is no big news though, he never steps him for a punch, he always throws punches from the security of the distance, afraid from trading, how can he KO anyone?

Well, Shields showed that UFC's WW division is weak (he did better then anyone else against GSP) and that Nick Diaz maybe much more dangerous then we thought for GSP. In fact, right now I don't see how will GSP win against Diaz. If Diaz finishes Daley in the 1st round and GSP can't even damage Shields, who will he endure Diaz striking? Besides Diaz BJJ will be on Shields' level so I guess he will also avoid the ground as he did with Shields. Another boring decision via takedown is his only chance.

As for Aldo, I don't know what happened but he was gassed for most of the fight. Bad weight cut? Even though he clearly won the fight, both in striking (look at Hominick's face) or the rest of the fight.

The rest was a great overall card.

And Lyoto "The Karate Kid" Machida finishes Couture with a Crane Kick.

Mr Miyagi would be proud.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Sad that GSP didn't finished Shields. Also, Shields has stop the strike of round winning of the champ.

Still GSP remain the greatest WW in the world. I'd love to see him fight Diaz and give a rematch to Fitch before, if he has to do it, moving against Silva

GSP is never going to fight Silva.

Kampmann should have had this title shot! He would have actually had a good chance of winning. He got robbed by the Shields decision and raped by the Diego decision.

And Mindset, great avatar!