Link vs Lich King

Originally posted by BloodRain
"Lich King has been sliced DIRECTLY and with such force that he was sent flying yards by what might one if not the most powerful weapon on Azeroth and he shrugged it of like he had suffered nothing but a bitchslap.."
Best (at least best physical) feat dug up from the last thread. That and some death/life limbo orb and a few other soul/mind moves.

Link having a holy-type sword of his own high strength in the case of TP, WW and OoT to make up for any power the Ashbringer, if any, has over the MS. That and getting some soul resistance (..I think) from the ToC... Link should most likely take this unless someone with WoW info comes along.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Master Sword holds enough magical power to counter the full Triforce.

What does Ashbringer have to compare?

It means to counter an item that grants any wish, passively transformed the Sacred Realm into the Dark Realm, and one third of it is the source of most of Ganon's power.

Originally posted by Pinkie Pie
When? What weapon? 😐

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But that countering effect does nothing for its physical power, besides the bonus against evil.

Originally posted by BloodRain
''dug up from the last thread'' I'm gonna have to the thread search again now. >:

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But that countering effect does nothing for its physical power, besides the bonus against evil.

It didn't get so popular for this, that's for sure.

You see, Ashbringer's best feat is hurting the Lich King and shattering Frostmourne. On the other hand, the Lich King's best durability feat is taking hits from Ashbringer(while being wielded by one of the most powerful Paladins of all time) and not keeling over.

Amazing, isn't it?

So Link has both significantly greater strength behind the blow, and a weapon that acts on a demonstrably higher scale.

/Thread.

Wouldn't say either sword is more damaging than the other but yes, any of the strength amped Link's can make up for this.

Why do people keep putting Lich King in vs. threads? He's such a shitty character in almost all regards. I mean, we know next to nothing about the new Lich King and I already like him a thousand times more than Arthas-Lich King.

Why is he shitty? 😑

Originally posted by BloodRain
Wouldn't say either sword is more damaging than the other but yes, any of the strength amped Link's can make up for this.

So my answer remains that all Link needs is the sword and ToC to win.

Originally posted by Pinkie Pie
Why is he shitty? 😑

I could name some reasons, but I'll just go straight to the most important one: because I said so.

In the effort it took you to write that you could've listed several examples 😛 I'm curious to why he's a bad character because I didn't find him so.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Except where Ashbringer's best feat is an extremely situational blast which required the wielder to kill himself, the master sword has frozen time for at the least all of Hyrule beneath the Great sea, probably the world, while depowered.

Originally posted by Pinkie Pie
In the effort it took you to write that you could've listed several examples 😛 I'm curious to why he's a bad character because I didn't find him so.

Apart from being a blatant ripoff of Sauron/Witch-king? I mean, in Warcraft 3/TFT he was at least intriguing and had potential. In WotLK, he got reduced to a gloating buffoon who allowed himself and his realm to be torn apart bit by bit. And virtually any time the Lich King actually decided to do some fighting by himself, he got his ass handed to him. What a gimp. I swear that Arthas and the Lich King were much better characters before they got merged. It's like Blizzard combined two good things to make a shitty one. Combining two positives shouldn't make a negative, but it did with the Lich King. I remember how in WotLK the whole Lich King story arc was the least interesting to me despite it being the focus of the game.

That's actually where part of my gripe comes from in using the Lich King in vs. threads. He got killed without demonstrating any particularly good feats(I guess apart from killing the whole raid with a single spell).

Edit: Btw, does anyone remember the Lich King having a decent strenght feat?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Thatsmore its defensive quirks, combat power/stuffs are more the thing in question like amped strength.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You missed the point that at it's weakest the sword is more powerful than Ashbringer, and it smites evil. It's on a higher scale. It wins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Grc_mn-pA&#t=5m

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Apart from being a blatant ripoff of Sauron/Witch-king? I mean, in Warcraft 3/TFT he was at least intriguing and had potential. In WotLK, he got reduced to a gloating buffoon who allowed himself and his realm to be torn apart bit by bit. And virtually any time the Lich King actually decided to do some fighting by himself, he got his ass handed to him. What a gimp. I swear that Arthas and the Lich King were much better characters before they got merged. It's like Blizzard combined two good things to make a shitty one. Combining two positives shouldn't make a negative, but it did with the Lich King. I remember how in WotLK the whole Lich King story arc was the least interesting to me despite it being the focus of the game.

That's actually where part of my gripe comes from in using the Lich King in vs. threads. He got killed without demonstrating any particularly good feats(I guess apart from killing the whole raid with a single spell).

Edit: Btw, does anyone remember the Lich King having a decent strenght feat?

I totally agree with you: as I already said, Arthas as the Lich King is like a baby with a gun. He's got awesome powers, but he can't use them decently. Only an idiot like him (he purposely let the "heroes" destroying his whole reign just to have 10/25 more troops, and he FAILED in getting them) could have lost the war in Northrend.

The only strenght feat from the Lich King that I remember is killing Dranosh Saurfang (the youunger one) with a single strike. In the wrathgate cinematic Dranosh cleaved 3 vrykuls (they were giving an hard time to the Alliance troops, so I think they're quite strong) with one strike, so he proved to be a great warrior.

Originally posted by The Scenario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Grc_mn-pA&#t=5m

You both neglect to remember a few things about the Lich King. I can even get a whiff of cognitive bias from your direction 😛 I find it important to point out that while similarities between the Lich King and whatever other character, in this case the Witch-King may exist aplenty it does not neglect two important things ✅

1. The character can still be good, ripoff or not. It doesn't make it a bad character just because another character is a notable inspiration. Lich King doesn't become shitty just because he's not original.
2. Many differences exist as well. That there are more differences than similarities seem to visit only few minds. Why? Because the big things are easier to see. He's evil, he wears a crowned helmet and metal armor, he like his world dark and dead and he likes concealing his face. Good thing the renown and popular Witch-King is there as reference for people to point at 😛

Now that I think about it . . . The Witch-King is our traditional evil villain as well and he wasn't original either. It is such a painful experience to see intelligent men brush something of as a ripoff to the Witch-King when the Witch-King himself is very likely inspired by an again-walker king in Norse mythology who was actually referred to as the Witch-King Thráinn. A dark soul, a crowned king in armor and cloak who forged a dark world.

Don't say something isn't original and then reference to a villain that any younger man or woman with decent creativity who doesn't know of Tolkien would think up given enough time 😛 Should a character deviate from a good character design because it'll make him a cheap ripoff? Not in my world ❌

Although I digress (Fresh start). The point here wasn't that he was alike the Witch-King. The point was that he is a shitty character. Which brings us to the agreeing by our Sailor Hades 😛 The plan that the Lich King set in motion during the Wrath of the Lich King is one of such astonishing complexity that neither of you seem to have picked it up. It was working exactly as intended. It had a few setbacks, unexpected progresses but it never deviated from the trail that the Lich King had set up.

Let me ask you this before you question the brilliance in his plan: What is an army worth if some heroes can swat it like nothing? Now imagine in place of this army a ruler is in control of a force of such power that it top that army and then some! Even in its few numbers it proved itself of greater power than his vast quantities. And that was without the gift of the Lich King 🙂

It wasn't a mistake that they got to the Lich King. It wasn't a mistake that he fought them. It wasn't a mistake that they put up a fight. It was a test and a training exercise! And don't get me started on the rest of the Lich King's life. It's a brilliant character who's getting an unfortunate amount of shit because of a falsely believed original idea called "Witch-King" 😛

Originally posted by BloodRain
Isn't that its evil dispel thing?

Maybe. There's nothing said about the barrier, though it's around Hyrule Castle.