Darth traya vs yoda

Started by Slash_KMC13 pages

Mace Windu is perhaps Dooku's equal on neutral grounds.

according to dooku (who also thought he was more powerful than YOda.)

Nope, this is obviously not written in anyone's point of view:

As Yoda released Whirry from his mind's hold, and let her spill gently onto the flagstones far below, the tip of Dooku's lightsaber scored a burning line across his shoulder. The Count's blade was quick as a viper striking. Among the other Jedi, perhaps only Mace Windu would have been his equal on neutral ground: but here on Vjun, steeped in the dark side, his bladework was malice made visible—wickedness cut in red light.

If you can prove that Dark Rendezvous is Dooku's diary then I'll admit it's according to Dooku.

It is at least as much Dooku's thoughts as the quote about Sidious being the most powerful from RODV is from Vader's POV.

Can you give the page number in which it was said so I can look at the context in which it has been said, because only then I can decide whether or not the quote from RODV is from Vader's point of view.

But the one I provided doesn't seem to start with Dooku thought or Dooku assumed.

I cannot right now, as I do not own that book. : ( so terribly sorry. anyone else?

I have the book saved, someone give me teh quote and I'll search for it.

Skimming through it though this book is definately from Vaders perspective. The narrative prose is full of his personal thoughts and beliefs. Definately him.

Harry Potter is also written from Harry Potter's perspective, but it is not written by him. Therefore, whenever his personal thoughts are being reflected, it must be stated by J.K. Rowling that those are his thoughts. There are a few scenes that aren't from Harry's perspective at all, this alone makes the presence of an out-universe narrator count.

Literature classes are kicking in.

If the thoughts are juxtaposed with limited 3rd person, there doesn't need to be any specific statement that those thoughts are coming from the POV. Typically the thoughts will be rendered in italics.

Kind of. Sometimes the prose reflects his feelings and stuff. Like whenever it mentions that 'Harry longed to throw the knife right through Snapes fat ****ing greasy face.' Snape doesn't really have a fat ****ing greasy face, its just reflecting Harry's anger.

Also stuff ike this: 'Vader could scarcely believe what he was hearing. Was Organa deliberately attempting to obstruct him; to make him appear inept in the eyes of Sidious? Anger welled up in him. Why was he wasting his time chasing fugitive Senators when it was the Jedi who posed a risk to the New Order?' Vaders thoughts directly written into the prose without any seperation of the two.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Kind of. Sometimes the prose reflects his feelings and stuff. Like whenever it mentions that 'Harry longed to throw the knife right through Snapes fat ****ing greasy face.' Snape doesn't really have a fat ****ing greasy face, its just reflecting Harry's anger.

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Where....

I think the actual quote is him wanting to upend his cauldron over Snapes head. That was just a humorous example that was meant to be humorous.

Also it was his stupid face instead of ****ing face.

No, i agree that the RODV quote is from vader, but I believe the same is true of Dooku's "perhaps his equal" quote from CD. I wasn't denying the vader analysis. Borborad convinced me on that one.

Originally posted by truejedi
No, i agree that the RODV quote is from vader, but I believe the same is true of Dooku's "perhaps his equal" quote from CD. I wasn't denying the vader analysis. Borborad convinced me on that one.

The same isn't true for the Dark Rendezvous quote. Nothing indicates it being from Dooku's perspective.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Kind of. Sometimes the prose reflects his feelings and stuff. Like whenever it mentions that 'Harry longed to throw the knife right through Snapes fat ****ing greasy face.' Snape doesn't really have a fat ****ing greasy face, its just reflecting Harry's anger.

You may go through the books, but everytime she isn't stating facts or a possible scenario, she indicates in some way it's Harry's thoughts.

Since we are on the subject of POV, I have a question that, if answered, will be followed by another question:

Does anyone have the full quote from the Death Star novel regarding Darth Sidious being the most powerful sith in history? I believe there were two quote.

Both from Vader's mind, I do recall. Fallible in-universe source--I don't really trust it as absolute.

"perhaps his equal" actually means nothing concrete either. The perhaps is a *****, especially when confronted with reams of evidence from the rest of the shows.

Logically and from a literature point of view it means that maybe Windu would be Dooku's equal on neutral grounds, but not right there, not on Vjun.

But I'm not going to discuss it anymore, I really couldn't care less about Dooku or Mace. They are such boring characters.

It is truely sad when Sammy Jackson is actually boring, but Lucas somehow pulled it off.

I'm going to go read Shatterpoint and cry while jerking off.