Originally posted by Existere
Of COURSE I isolated which part of the post I was quoting. Otherwise the direct point I was clashing with would be unclear. Apologies for my clarity.As far as the reasoning that 'J'onn has been beaten before, Thanos hasn't'', without discussing the truth of that statement, we can talk about how it provides no basis for concluding Thanos' superiority: if Spider-Man's won every arm wrestle he's ever had, can we conclude that he's stronger than Captain Marvel, who lost in an arm wrestle to Superman?
In the future, you could reply to what I'm actually saying instead of just insisting that hidden somewhere in the rest of your post is an actual response for me to puzzle out. Actually engaging with any of the arguments directed towards you would help further discussion more than simply dodging and misdirecting.
For as much as you talk about knowing what I was saying and me not figuring out what you were... Did you miss the part where I said it's a stalemate.. i don't know.. 5 times in this thread? That was terrible analogy... we're comparing TP user that are very close to one another. Spiderman's and Marvel's aren't even close. When two people are close in TP feats and defenses.. and one has had theirs breached at times and one hasn't.... surely that must count for something right? Or are you saying it counts for nothing and J'onn gets the win.. based on WHAT for the 100th time?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYou're an imbecile.
For as much as you talk about knowing what I was saying and me not figuring out what you were... Did you miss the part where I said it's a stalemate.. i don't know.. 5 times in this thread? That was terrible analogy... we're comparing TP user that are very close to one another. Spiderman's and Marvel's aren't even close. When two people are close in TP feats and defenses.. and one has had theirs breached at times and one hasn't.... surely that must count for something right? Or are you saying it counts for nothing and J'onn gets the win.. based on WHAT for the 100th time?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
When exactly did J'onn and Prof x have a TP battle that put J'onn well above Prof. X? Or is this one of these... It's J'onn.. he's an awesome TP.. therefore he must be vastly above Prof. x?
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i..... don't even know what the hell this is supposed to mean. i said people used to place j'onn above x, but recently ity has been said to be a lot closer. what initially put him above x? the ease with which he accomplishes planetary level feats for one. i personally like the feat where he smashed into spectre's mind. and the megaddon one.
As I stated in my post... Thanos has never been mind raped and controlled as J'onn has on a few occasions. He's battled some of the BEST minds in Marvel and not been raped. As i noted above... got into a TP battle with galactus and breached his defenses... Something Xavier couldn't come close to doing. He beat Moondragon WITH the mind gem in a TP war. As we know moondragon is one of the best TP's in Marvel. Just recently 3 of the best TP's in marvel couldn't mind control hiim EVEN while he was weakened. Again, Prof X... tried to enter his mind and Thanos resisted it with ease. You can call it a will feat or a mind feat.. but Magus with an incomplete IG tried to "convince" "make" Thanos bow down before him.. Thanos resisted it. Moondragon with the Mind Gem is above J'onn imo and couldn't even come close to beating Thanos let alone even breaching his defenses. So NOW that we have some of those feats out of the way... I ASK AGAIN.. What are the feats of J'onn that clearly put him above Thanos that people are giving him the win. I'm still waiting on these clear decisive superior feats of J'onn that people are basing on the vote on, and giving J'onn the win. Shouldn't be that hard right.. since it's so "clear" [/B]
moondragon w/gem couldn't put ss down, so, whatever. shrugging off x is impressive, but he didn't do anything to x either. i'd put his experience with galactus as clearly his best feat, though it amounted to nothing and really had extenuating circumstances anyway--namely moondragon. reagrdless, was it better than handling spectre with tp? i don't think so, personally. better than finding his way into megaddon's 'mind'? i don't really think so.
so, i come back to my initial surmise--i can't really see mm taking him OUT with tp, but nor can i see thanos beating HIM. likely a draw, imo, that would lead to physical combat.
Originally posted by leonidasWhat actually makes this stand out as a feat?
reagrdless, was it better than handling spectre with tp? i don't think so, personally.
I'm just curious. Not challenging anything, but wanting to know if Spectre had been blocking out powerful minds (and therefore J'onn's powerful for succeeding where those minds failed) or if we're just assuming the task to be monumental because Spectre is.. Spectre.
Originally posted by Existere
What actually makes this stand out as a feat?I'm just curious. Not challenging anything, but wanting to know if Spectre had been blocking out powerful minds (and therefore J'onn's powerful for succeeding where those minds failed) or if we're just assuming the task to be monumental because Spectre is.. Spectre.
a little of both tbh. pretty😬
i was talking more about the time where he got into spectre's mind and took both into joker's though. he also made joker sane once. also cool, if not 'uber' unless you count the depths of joker's insanity.
didn't he also use his tp against dr fate? i thought so, but couldn't find a scan. anyone know for sure or where?
Originally posted by Existereof course... that's it... what a smart cookie u are only half quoting one sentence n leaving out the rest where I clarified the point n expanded upon it further...or how about where u claimed I gave thanos the win, when I actually called it a stalemate numerous times ... or when u used a terrible analogy comparing arm wrestling, spiderman, marvel in strength... bravo on that pies poor analogy... when in fact we are comparing relative equals in the tp department. Yet... I'm the imbecile... thanks for the laugh kid
You're an imbecile.