Originally posted by carver9
The Superman that fought HP Doomsday is weaker than current Supes. I would give current Supes the edge in a fight against HP Doomsday. HP Doomsday fought a much weaker JLA.He would not last against Thanos just like General wouldn't. I would give Supes a 7 or 8/10 against Doomsday and since I thing Thanos is >Superman... you get the point.
Eilings get punched to sleep as well and using his showings against a weaker JLA isn't going to help your case.
I wouldn't go that far. Before the HP arc. Superman casually punched Lobo (a 1600lb being) into orbit through a highly durable alien spacecraft like tissue paper.
Originally posted by h1a8hulk's done far better, don't believe me?
I wouldn't go that far. Before the HP arc. Superman casually punched Lobo (a 1600lb being) into orbit through a highly durable alien spacecraft like tissue paper.
the mass of the soul gem is what...a few grams, hulk made it bore 50% through a planet.
lithosphere > troposphere, stratosphere, etc
Originally posted by h1a8That's like saying Thor is stronger than Thanos because he once threw someone off the planet and was still seen flying.
I wouldn't go that far. Before the HP arc. Superman casually punched Lobo (a 1600lb being) into orbit through a highly durable alien spacecraft like tissue paper.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk's done far better, don't believe me?
try doing the math for this event s'il vous plaît (but i know you won't cause it's not superman):the mass of the soul gem is what...a few grams, hulk made it bore 50% through a planet.
lithosphere > troposphere, stratosphere, etc
Well, it was a very impressive feat by Hulk. I never saw that one, thanks.
With that said, Superman's feat was still better since Lobo is over 10000 times more massive than the gem, Superman hit him against gravity whereas gravity was working for Hulk, The gem has a small area so that it can cut through the ground far easier than say a large being (P=F/A), after Lobo entered space he still had enough velocity to go through a highly durable and highly thick alien space like tissue paper (two thick walls and not just one).
But neglecting gravity, the feat would take about 1.5 million tons of force to pull off, give or take a 1 million tons of force. I calculated a rough estimate already.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's like saying Thor is stronger than Thanos because he once threw someone off the planet and was still seen flying.
The only being I seen Thor get overpowered by was Mangog.
By overpower, I mean where the two were gripped up (like in an armwrestling match) and one overcame the other. So Thor could be stronger than Thanos or it could be so close it wouldn't matter.
IMO, Thanos is slightly stronger than Thor but a belt of strength or WM Thor is stronger than Thanos.
Originally posted by h1a8i know you're joking there, the gem cutting through the crust part was especially hilarious.
Well, it was a very impressive feat by Hulk. I never saw that one, thanks.With that said, Superman's feat was still better since Lobo is over 10000 times more massive than the gem, Superman hit him against gravity whereas gravity was working for Hulk, The gem has a small area so that it can cut through the ground far easier than say a large being (P=F/A), after Lobo entered space he still had enough velocity to go through a highly durable and highly thick alien space like tissue paper (two thick walls and not just one).
But neglecting gravity, the feat would take about 1.5 million tons of force to pull off, give or take a 1 million tons of force. I calculated a rough estimate already.
i'll let these guys tell it:
yvSTuLIjRm8&feature
you are purposely ignoring the negative acceleration due to friction, and there is a shitload of it affecting the velocity of the what...5 milligram soul gem.
Originally posted by h1a8
I wouldn't go that far. Before the HP arc. Superman casually punched Lobo (a 1600lb being) into orbit through a highly durable alien spacecraft like tissue paper.
Superman was amped when he did that... he even admits it during the time he punched Lobo. Hell, a couple of issues after this (at least 1 or 2), he Hulks up and was even afraid to touch Lois due to the fact that he was afraid of killing her.
STOP VISITING THE RESPECT THREAD AND READ THE COMICS INSTEAD.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman was amped when he did that... he even admits it during the time he punched Lobo. Hell, a couple of issues after this (at least 1 or 2), he Hulks up and was even afraid to touch Lois due to the fact that he was afraid of killing her.STOP VISITING THE RESPECT THREAD AND READ THE COMICS INSTEAD.
Says the guy who thought Eradicator was Superman. mmm
Originally posted by h1a8
Not really. He claimed that since current Superman is stronger then he would have an edge against HP DD. My post is not trying to prove current Superman isn't stronger (that would destroy me lol) but trying to show the HP Superman was still strong as hell.The only being I seen Thor get overpowered by was Mangog.
By overpower, I mean where the two were gripped up (like in an armwrestling match) and one overcame the other. So Thor could be stronger than Thanos or it could be so close it wouldn't matter.IMO, Thanos is slightly stronger than Thor but a belt of strength or WM Thor is stronger than Thanos.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
lol. seriously?
Originally posted by carver9
I agree... Superman would use his speed... what I am disagreeing with is him fighting Thanos as if he is a statue... its not happening.How much more durable is Doomsday over Thanos and Odin? The reason I ask is because I know for a fact that Superman will not pull his punches against Doomsday and his punches weren't even budging him as seen below.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7044680/Action_900_Legion_CPS_009.jpg.html
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's not Superman.
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Originally posted by carver9
🙁 Eradiactor was turned around while fighting Doomsday and the only thing you really saw was the S shield. I wasn't the only one who thought Eradicator was someone else.
you could see his costume.
Originally posted by psycho gundamNot really, my estimate is from a bullet through a block. Many physics problems are on those. Try to look some up. Oh and the bullet through water thing helps my case. A bullet travels farther through water than a block before stopping.
i know you're joking there, the gem cutting through the crust part was especially hilarious.i'll let these guys tell it:
yvSTuLIjRm8&feature
you are purposely ignoring the negative acceleration due to friction, and there is a shitload of it affecting the velocity of the what...5 milligram soul gem.
