Originally posted by Prep-Manmore varied? I disagree, it's domianted by flying bricks. in terms of overall power, they are roughly the same on average, but the sheer concentration of abstract levely reality warpers in marvel earth in the present makes it unconquerable. i dont know every single charatcer you mentioned, but folks like the flash family, superman family and marvel, all a bunch of heralds, really have no shot against the warpers.
jakeem thunder, chemira, amazo, spectre, sentinels of magic, lodestone, superman family, marvel family, black family, flash family, timothy hunter, hourman 1m, alan scott, zoom, professor zoom, white light entity, swamt thing, fate , black alice,etc... dc is just as powerful, but also has more varied of power as well. id go with dc earth in terms ofoverall power.
Originally posted by 753 more varied? I disagree, it's domianted by flying bricks. in terms of overall power, they are roughly the same on average, but the sheer concentration of abstract levely reality warpers in marvel earth in the present makes it unconquerable. i dont know every single charatcer you mentioned, but folks like the flash family, superman family and marvel, all a bunch of heralds, really have no shot against the warpers.
i just named 4 or so powerful reality warpers. they are just not as popular as marvels. also, dc has much more than just bricks. they are loaded with mages and speedsters. not to mention shadow manipulators and a good number of energy manipulators like light and so on.
Originally posted by Prep-ManBut the only three on that list that can stand up to Reality manips are Thunder, maybe Amazo if he can get copy off before getting erased, Hunter on a big if, Flash Family(on a blitz and its a big maybe considering the warpers can just alter reality to cut off speed force), Entity, (Fate/Shazam/Lords of Order/Chaos) and ST. Even ST could get crushed by Legion if he just obliterated everything.
jakeem thunder, chemira, amazo, spectre, sentinels of magic, lodestone, superman family, marvel family, black family, flash family, timothy hunter, hourman 1m, alan scott, zoom, professor zoom, white light entity, swamt thing, fate , black alice,etc... dc is just as powerful, but also has more varied of power as well. id go with dc earth in terms ofoverall power.
Franklin, Legion HoM Wanda, RKT at his best, Molecule Man/Beyonder Pre Ret, Absolom Mercator(Would have to see more from him though but he is supposed to be an unkillable warper even supposedly power drained by leech and getting killed he might still be alive not sure though) could all potentially solo nearly any list by reality rewrites on a universal scale.
Originally posted by Uriel005 But the only three on that list that can stand up to Reality manips are Thunder, maybe Amazo if he can get copy off before getting erased, Hunter on a big if, Flash Family(on a blitz and its a big maybe considering the warpers can just alter reality to cut off speed force), Entity, (Fate/Shazam/Lords of Order/Chaos) and ST. Even ST could get crushed by Legion if he just obliterated everything. Franklin, Legion HoM Wanda, RKT at his best, Molecule Man/Beyonder Pre Ret, Absolom Mercator(Would have to see more from him though but he is supposed to be an unkillable warper even supposedly power drained by leech and getting killed he might still be alive not sure though) could all potentially solo nearly any list by reality rewrites on a universal scale.
wanda isnt at her hom levels and chimera, hunter, and even dorothy would go toe to toe with some of the most powerful mu has to offer
Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by Daemon SeedSuch a huge roster. Numbers don't matter to Zoom. If a person can beat him, they can. Having 1,000 characters or 1,000,000 characters is useless if they can't react.
No Odin on Marvel Earth and Reed and Doctor Doom are captured first. Only heroes who are based on Earth.
I'm not sure the full roster, but if a character can beat him, they can do it alone. This is without warning though.
Oh and is CIS off?
Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Such a huge roster. Numbers don't matter to Zoom. If a person can beat him, they can. Having 1,000 characters or 1,000,000 characters is useless if they can't react.I'm not sure the full roster, but if a character can beat him, they can do it alone. This is without warning though.
Oh and is CIS off?
Zoom stands no chance against the reality warpers. How is he going to go after them if he dosen't know who they are? Can Zoom fly? These reality warpers can warp him without confronting him. Zoom has no chance.
Re: Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by Hyperion PrimeDoesn't he have to know who he's going after?
Zoom stands no chance against the reality warpers. How is he going to go after them if he dosen't know who they are? Can Zoom fly? These reality warpers can warp him without confronting him. Zoom has no chance.
Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterIm not even gonna bother debating abstract level reality warpers against zoom anymore. marvel has the aquarian. he soloes the speedsters
Such a huge roster. Numbers don't matter to Zoom. If a person can beat him, they can. Having 1,000 characters or 1,000,000 characters is useless if they can't react.I'm not sure the full roster, but if a character can beat him, they can do it alone. This is without warning though.
Oh and is CIS off?
Re: Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by 753
you mean the warpers? not really. no. more. zoom.
Originally posted by 753
Im not even gonna bother debating abstract level reality warpers against zoom anymore. marvel has the aquarian. he soloes the speedsters
👆 Yeah the Zoom wankage is getting ridiculous. Sitting in a room somewhere "no more invaders" end of story.
I am pretty sure the warpers will know who the bad guys are especially since they are the ones invading the planet. The warpers can keep there prescence hidden. I am done debating it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by Hyperion Primethey dont even have to know. wanda didnt know what the **** she was doing and she still broke reality to pieces and put it back together with a thought
👆 Yeah the Zoom wankage is getting ridiculous. Sitting in a room somewhere "no more invaders" end of story.
I am pretty sure the warpers will know who the bad guys are especially since they are the ones invading the planet. The warpers can keep there prescence hidden. I am done debating it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by 753
they dont even have to know. wanda didnt know what the **** she was doing and she still broke reality to pieces and put it back together with a thought
I know, but I was just using that as an example for those who are saying "How would they know" In reality the warpers don't have to know at all. You are right.