Re: Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by 753That isn't what I asked, someone mentioned they wouldn't know where everyone was. I thought that was part of the thread. Wouldn't they have to know who they target?
Im not even gonna bother debating abstract level reality warpers against zoom anymore. marvel has the aquarian. he soloes the speedsters
Anybody who can beat them can beat them without the earth, but it all comes down to reaction in most cases. Strange can beat Zoom if he is prepared, but without it he won't on the forum.
The difference between 1,000 and 1,000,000 to Zoom is nothing. That's my point.
Re: Re: Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That isn't what I asked, someone mentioned they wouldn't know where everyone was. I thought that was part of the thread. Wouldn't they have to know who they target?Anybody who can beat them can beat them without the earth, but it all comes down to reaction in most cases. Strange can beat Zoom if he is prepared, but without it he won't on the forum.
The difference between 1,000 and 1,000,000 to Zoom is nothing. That's my point.
Re: Re: Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterit comes down to cube and abstract level beings not needing to give a **** about him. for one, they can survive their physicial bodies being destroyed and two, it's absurd to even bring up reaction time and durability when dealing with beings that hold universes int heir hands. they can survive the destruction of the unvierse, survive outside spacetime in realities of their own making or in the realms of oblivion, but zoom is gonna beat them with superfast punches. sure.
That isn't what I asked, someone mentioned they wouldn't know where everyone was. I thought that was part of the thread. Wouldn't they have to know who they target?Anybody who can beat them can beat them without the earth, but it all comes down to reaction in most cases. Strange can beat Zoom if he is prepared, but without it he won't on the forum.
The difference between 1,000 and 1,000,000 to Zoom is nothing. That's my point.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by 753
it comes down to cube and abstract level beings not needing to give a **** about him. for one, they can survive their physicial bodies being destroyed and two, it's absurd to even bring up reaction time and durability when dealing with beings that hold universes int heir hands. they can survive the destruction of the unvierse, survive outside spacetime in realities of their own making or in the realms of oblivion, but zoom is gonna beat them with superfast punches. sure.
Did I say anything about him winning? And which cube and abstract beings are on Earth? This would be better with a roster. My point is if they can win, they can beat him alone. If they can't, then the numbers won't make a difference to a guy who makes Flash and Superman look like a statue.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by Tha C-Mastermolecule man, franklin richards, legion. SW too, but she hasn't reactivated her pwoers yet. this should happen by the end of children's crusade.
Did I say anything about him winning? And which cube and abstract beings are on Earth? This would be better with a roster. My point is if they can win, they can beat him alone. If they can't, then the numbers won't make a difference to a guy who makes Flash and Superman look like a statue.
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Originally posted by 753That's my point. If there are 10,000 Wolverine's around it won't make a difference than if there was one. Because none would react.
molecule man, franklin richards, legion. SW too, but she hasn't reactivated her pwoers yet. this should happen by the end of children's crusade.
Then there are characters who are tough enough to win, but aren't durable enough. But they do not have the time, Strange.
Characters who can beat him outright could do it anyways. Without Earth. That was what I was saying.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterFranklin is about Celestial level and we've seen non cannon mind you the potential to go abstract Galactus level. But yeah I just don't see how to win if Shaman Nate realizes what happened and pulls Franklin/other warper into Planck time speed and puts down the team. Also if Franklin's precog gets set off what's to stop him for being ready for the team at the get-go and have them deconstructed at a molecular scale/erased from existence on passing through the portal to earth. He could also set up a time-stop/null field and render all motion/kinetic energy void around him. Then Zoom becomes useless.
Did I say anything about him winning? And which cube and abstract beings are on Earth? This would be better with a roster. My point is if they can win, they can beat him alone. If they can't, then the numbers won't make a difference to a guy who makes Flash and Superman look like a statue.
Originally posted by Uriel005I made a thread about "who under skyfather could beat Zoom", people who could had to use some type of exploit since he is hax.
Franklin is about Celestial level and we've seen non cannon mind you the potential to go abstract Galactus level. But yeah I just don't see how to win if Shaman Nate realizes what happened and pulls Franklin/other warper into Planck time speed and puts down the team. Also if Franklin's precog gets set off what's to stop him for being ready for the team at the get-go and have them deconstructed at a molecular scale/erased from existence on passing through the portal to earth. He could also set up a time-stop/null field and render all motion/kinetic energy void around him. Then Zoom becomes useless.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterOh I agree with you that Zoom is broken because even if he can't hurt his opponent it's not like 99% of his opponents can catch him
I made a thread about "who under skyfather could beat Zoom", people who could had to use some type of exploit since he is hax.
My point wasn't that he'd automatically win, it would just depend on the roster.
Re: Re: Re: Re: General Ealing, Zoom, Doomsday, WWIII BA, Superboy Prime Vs. Marvel E
Originally posted by Tha C-Master That isn't what I asked, someone mentioned they wouldn't know where everyone was. I thought that was part of the thread. Wouldn't they have to know who they target? Anybody who can beat them can beat them without the earth, but it all comes down to reaction in most cases. Strange can beat Zoom if he is prepared, but without it he won't on the forum. The difference between 1,000 and 1,000,000 to Zoom is nothing. That's my point.
im sure one of those wolverines could eventually trip zoom. 😉