Death

Originally posted by Deja~vu
If Jesus really wanted us to know he existed, he'd tell us in person. He'd make himself soooooooooo large with big fingers and everything, how could we doubt. If he loved us he would do that, right?

And don't come with "Blessed are those who have not seen and believed....."

If God made himself known to everyone it would remove faith, which is still an important part of it.

Originally posted by TacDavey
If God made himself known to everyone it would remove faith, which is still an important part of it.

Have you ever eaten chicken and eggs in the same meal? Like eating a cadaver and a fetus at the same time.

a lot of east asian rice and noodle dishes have chicken and egg in them

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good

Originally posted by TacDavey
If God made himself known to everyone it would remove faith, which is still an important part of it.

Nah, people would still have to have faith in his goodness and his plan and such.

Originally posted by TacDavey
If God made himself known to everyone it would remove faith, which is still an important part of it.

Originally posted by BloodRain
A bit of a 'Chicken or the egg?' thing there.

What do you mean?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Nah, people would still have to have faith in his goodness and his plan and such.

It isn't like as long as you have faith in some aspect you're all good.

Originally posted by King Kandy
But he obviously didn't have that problem in the old testament, or when he made himself incarnate on earth. So what kind of excuse is that?

Meh, not well rounded in the old Testament. Think things worked differently back then, though.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Meh, not well rounded in the old Testament. Think things worked differently back then, though.

Originally posted by King Kandy
So you are basically just hand waving that away. You don't know a thing about the bible. You can't even answer a basic question like that.

I'm willing to admit that I don't know, right off, why "faith" is so important or why God doesn't show Himself today like He did back then. I assume it has something to do with the Death of Christ and the switch up to the way things work from that point on but I could be mistaken. That's really more of a question for a pastor or something.

So why are you even trying to argue here anymore? We showed an obvious problem in your ideas. And you don't even have a clue how to rationalize it. So you basically don't care whether what you're saying is right or not or even makes sense.

Originally posted by King Kandy
So why are you even trying to argue here anymore? We showed an obvious problem in your ideas. And you don't even have a clue how to rationalize it. So you basically don't care whether what you're saying is right or not or even makes sense.

That isn't true. I responded to the question of "why God doesn't come down in a fiery chariot". I never made the claim that I knew why He doesn't perform things like that today.

Though, I think that He doesn't pull burning bush stunts today because it would prove that he exists. Which, according to Pascal, would be an infringement on "free will" in a sense.

According to Pascal, God gives us enough evidence so that those who really seek Him will find Him, and a sufficient lack of evidence so that those who do not want anything to do with Him have the option of doing just that. God doesn't want to force us to believe in Him.

EDIT: Ah, sorry. Left out an important part. God doesn't part the red sea today because with news and current technology it would spread to the whole world and everyone would be forced to believe. In old times, it was only a select people who ever truely witnessed it. That, and the above stuff.

Originally posted by TacDavey
It isn't like as long as you have faith in some aspect you're all good.

They strike me as the only parts that actually matter.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Meh, not well rounded in the old Testament. Think things worked differently back then, though.

Worst answer ever.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
They strike me as the only parts that actually matter.

You mean faith? I think it is important, for the reasons in the above post.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Worst answer ever.

Would you have preferred that I try to just make something up? I didn't know the answer to the question at the time, nor did I ever say that I did.

Originally posted by TacDavey
If God made himself known to everyone it would remove faith, which is still an important part of it.

someone would have come down already, if there was anyone up there and straightened all this drama and chaos thats been going on for millenniums now.

Originally posted by chomperx9
it would remove alot of murders every day over religion. if there is anyone up there, he, she, it, would not want us fighting one another especially when it leads to life and death situation, just to prove ones existence.

someone would have come down already, if there was anyone up there and straightened all this drama and chaos thats been going on for millenniums now.

Originally posted by chomperx9
it would remove alot of murders every day over religion. if there is anyone up there, he, she, it, would not want us fighting one another especially when it leads to life and death situation, just to prove ones existence.

someone would have come down already, if there was anyone up there and straightened all this drama and chaos thats been going on for millenniums now.

Perhaps someone "up there" does not want to interfere with our free will.

no death is not a end of life

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Do we believe it's the end?

No, I don't think so. I believe there is some sort of afterlife.

Why?

The older I get the more I feel that the end is near