Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Well, I kind of implied that Chouji is > Shikamaru. 😛But they still come off as low-average when compared to an Uchiha, so ha!
Be that as it may, Shikamaru is still getting compliments from an Uchiha. And if Choji is better than him, he would also get said compliment.
All shinobi do. That doesn't make them not high ranking.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Be that as it may, Shikamaru is still getting compliments from an Uchiha. And if Choji is better than him, he would also get said compliment.All shinobi do. That doesn't make them not high ranking.
Wait till Chouji punches the Jubi back into Outer Space.
Well, we were originally discussing hether or not Sasuke would overshoot things, and seeing as they all come off as average against him...
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
That's what I meant by explaining my viewpoint out. If Naruto can pull out the cloaks, then he could escentially clear it up until Sasuke.If Sasuke ends up caging the kyuubi, then Naruto can use.....I don't have any sugesstion for getting around Sussano to be honest.
Naruto would probably be too hurt to continue if he slips into a 4 tailed transformation & onwards, and Sasuke manages to suppress the Kyuubi's chakra. He was hurt badly after the fight against Orochimaru.
Also Rasenshuriken could probably get through the Susan'o that Danzou got through. Of course Danzou had to hit it from behind, avoiding its shield completely.
Naw, I think naruto wins. If only barely by the end. he has prep time, and naruto is almost as good at strategies as shikamaru. he is faster than all of them (when in the kyuubi chakra mode), stronger than all of them, has WAY too much power for the shadow techs to hold him, I doubt naruto would let sasuke block his chakra again, and I think he has enough mental strength to combat the "illusions" if not, he certainly has enough chakra to overpower them.
Really the only thing that would hinder his win, would be the fact that he would be facing so many (the first 5 get one shotted if naruto is serious) but with both kyuubi mode and sage mode, he can sense their life force/chakra so he can keep track of them
So it goes like this
1.) Sakura dead
2.) Neji dead
3.) Rock Lee dead
4.) Shikamaru dead
5.) Choji dead
6.) Guy loses, but alive
7.) Tsunade dead (kills guy in process)
8.) Kakashi loses, but alive (kills guy in process)
9.) Jiraiya loses but alive (kills kakashi in process)
10.) Sasuke dies then Jiraiya dies
Since I know which Naruto is being used now...
Using Kyuubi mode is tempting. He can fly through most of the beginning fighters with relative ease, except maybe Neji and Lee. However, he would likely stop at Choji, who would not be so easily one shotted. Remember, Naruto doesn't exactly have full mastery over the speed of this new form(from what I've seen anyway) and could very well injure himself along with his opponents. Also the longer he stays in it, the more perilous it would be to him. If he gets past Choji, and there is a fair chance he will, Guy will end him. So Kyuubi Mode is worthless. It doesn't capitalize on the prep time and leaves him without the ability to use clones. So he'll need that as a trump card.
So that leaves him with Sage Mode. I like the idea of sending clones off to gather chakra while speed blitzing as far as he can with initial Sage Mode....but Neji will literally see through this. The area is smallish and with the ability to see all of the arena, he could find the clones and destroy them. His kaiten can protect him until then. Naruto would have to be clever to get passed Neji. RS would do it but that would be suicide.
Which takes him to Lee and Shikamaru, who will wear down what little Sage Mode time Naruto has left. If he makes it through, Choji can stop him. If at this time he goes into Kyuubi Mode, he might get past him. But it will not get him through Morning Peacock/Afternoon Tiger.
So he probably loses. Yay I guess.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Wait till Chouji punches the Jubi back into Outer Space.Well, we were originally discussing hether or not Sasuke would overshoot things, and seeing as they all come off as average against him...
Naruto would probably be too hurt to continue if he slips into a 4 tailed transformation & onwards, and Sasuke manages to suppress the Kyuubi's chakra. He was hurt badly after the fight against Orochimaru.
Also Rasenshuriken could probably get through the Susan'o that Danzou got through. Of course Danzou had to hit it from behind, avoiding its shield completely.
Sasuke could just disintergrate the damn RS with Amateratsu and you know it. Plus Sasuke can still follow the movements of others as seen in his fight with Bee.
BTW was there something special Minato did aside from repairing the seal that prevented Naruto from looking like a torn up slab of meat after his transformation in the Pein fight?
TheAuraAngel: Soo......we can't used tailed Naruto? That sucks man!
Your giving Naruto too much credit in his new Kyuubi form, he's not getting past Choji 😄
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Sasuke could just disintergrate the damn RS with Amateratsu and you know it. Plus Sasuke can still follow the movements of others as seen in his fight with Bee.
BTW was there something special Minato did aside from repairing the seal that prevented Naruto from looking like a torn up slab of meat after his transformation in the Pein fight?
Meh, I dunno how RS would interact with Amaterasu. But I am inclined to believe that Amaterasu would trump it awesome
RS by itself is avoidable, but Naruto has tricks up his sleeve which increase the chances of RS hitting.
Dunno, I'm guessing either Naruto wasn't in that Kyuubi mode for too long like he was against Orochimaru, or Minato did indeed do something special. Hard to say really.
After all, Killerbee seems fine after entering what seems to be the same mode, and he can control the Hachibi's chakra. Conversely he hasn't been in that form for more than a minute.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Since I know which Naruto is being used now...Using Kyuubi mode is tempting. He can fly through most of the beginning fighters with relative ease, except maybe Neji and Lee. However, he would likely stop at Choji, who would not be so easily one shotted. Remember, Naruto doesn't exactly have full mastery over the speed of this new form(from what I've seen anyway) and could very well injure himself along with his opponents. Also the longer he stays in it, the more perilous it would be to him. If he gets past Choji, and there is a fair chance he will, Guy will end him. So Kyuubi Mode is worthless. It doesn't capitalize on the prep time and leaves him without the ability to use clones. So he'll need that as a trump card.
So that leaves him with Sage Mode. I like the idea of sending clones off to gather chakra while speed blitzing as far as he can with initial Sage Mode....but Neji will literally see through this. The area is smallish and with the ability to see all of the arena, he could find the clones and destroy them. His kaiten can protect him until then. Naruto would have to be clever to get passed Neji. RS would do it but that would be suicide.
Which takes him to Lee and Shikamaru, who will wear down what little Sage Mode time Naruto has left. If he makes it through, Choji can stop him. If at this time he goes into Kyuubi Mode, he might get past him. But it will not get him through Morning Peacock/Afternoon Tiger.
So he probably loses. Yay I guess.
The only thing I have an issue with is Neji somehow knowing before-hand what Naruto intends to do with his clones. Even if he is a genius, he won't know realize what Naruto's intentions are for each clone he sends out, until he uses one to enter Sage Mode.
He also may also have the option of sending the Clones outside the arena, in which case (if he's clever enough to think of it), he could send 10+ clones out, disperse all but 2 once they are safe, and then have them collect NE.
Plus there's always summoning a Boss Toad to guard each clone. peaches
Otherwise, 👆
You also never got into teamwork. Most of Naruto's opponents work well with each other.
Shikamaru for one could likely come up with a plan to put Naruto down based on which members are left standing when he enters the fray, and the others will be bound to listen, as they know of his prowess in strategy.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
The only thing I have an issue with is Neji somehow knowing before-hand what Naruto intends to do with his clones. Even if he is a genius, he won't know realize what Naruto's intentions are for each clone he sends out, until he uses one to enter Sage Mode.
He also may also have the option of sending the Clones outside the arena, in which case (if he's clever enough to think of it), he could send 10+ clones out, disperse all but 2 once they are safe, and then have them collect NE.Plus there's always summoning a Boss Toad to guard each clone. peaches
Otherwise, 👆
You also never got into teamwork. Most of Naruto's opponents work well with each other.
Shikamaru for one could likely come up with a plan to put Naruto down based on which members are left standing when he enters the fray, and the others will be bound to listen, as they know of his prowess in strategy.
Well I assume Neji would see them gathering chakra and think something was up and then killing them just to be safe. And I don't think sending them out of the arena counts!!!! Not that it matters, Neji would still likely be able to spot them. 😛
I actually considered the Toads but didn't talk about them. Mostly because they'll fall to Shikamaru or Choji. awesome
I was more or less talking in the traditional gauntlet method. If Naruto hits them all with a rasengan, they're likely to stay down, so team work won't come into play all that much in that case. But that is assuming Naruto rasengans everybody, which he might not. 😛
Also, he will not one shot Tsunade. Who will defeat him if by some miracle he gets past Choji and Guy. 🙂
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Well I assume Neji would see them gathering chakra and think something was up and then killing them just to be safe. And I don't think sending them out of the arena counts!!!! Not that it matters, Neji would still likely be able to spot them. 😛I actually considered the Toads but didn't talk about them. Mostly because they'll fall to Shikamaru or Choji. awesome
I was more or less talking in the traditional gauntlet method. If Naruto hits them all with a rasengan, they're likely to stay down, so team work won't come into play all that much in that case. But that is assuming Naruto rasengans everybody, which he might not. 😛
Also, he will not one shot Tsunade. Who will defeat him if by some miracle he gets past Choji and Guy. 🙂
Ahh, but they don't gather chakra. 😛
At best, Neji will follow one of the clones thinking that it is Naruto trying to hide.
Also, if he sends them out of the arena, that's a greater distance that Neji has to travel if he wants to take out the clones.
Shikamaru? Nahh. Chouji? Well, I've made my thoughts on that clear before. excellent
Eh, it isn't a traditional gauntlet, and the next person comes in when the previous person is in trouble, not KO'd. Also, yeah, most would be put down if they got hit by the Rasengan, but that doesn't mean they'll get hit by it. And there's always Sakura or Tsunade attempting to heal them, assuming the fighters once KO'd aren't removed from the field.