Thor vs. Hulk

Started by Robtard8 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
Ang Lee's Hulk destroy's Movie Thor without effort.

However, there was one line in the movie that was telling of Thor not showing his full abilities: Odin said Thor could have destroyed all of the Frost Giants by himself.

Loki said that.

Originally posted by Robtard
Thor fanboys already? Hahahaha, man.

I'm going to make a Thor vs. Karl Childers thread next.

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm going to make a Thor vs. Karl Childers thread next.

Give Karl an adamantium sling-blade; it's on.

Hulk had serious trouble with Gamma Dogs.

😐

Thor's feat of destroying the Frost Giant city is better than ANY destructive feat of Hulk's, vastly superior in fact. The ability to casually conjure thunderstorms at will means that Hulk will also not actually be able to hit Thor because he will be floating in the air, subject to Thor's power.

Also, dadudemon, you're a buttface who does stuff like this, how would you like to calculate the previous mentioned feat of destroying the Frost Giant City?

Thor wins

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hulk had serious trouble with Gamma Dogs.

😐

Thor's feat of destroying the Frost Giant city is better than ANY destructive feat of Hulk's, vastly superior in fact. The ability to casually conjure thunderstorms at will means that Hulk will also not actually be able to hit Thor because he will be floating in the air, subject to Thor's power.

Also, dadudemon, you're a buttface who does stuff like this, how would you like to calculate the previous mentioned feat of destroying the Frost Giant City?

By serious trouble do you mean sustaining no serious injuries? And, dude, and if those gamma dogs were as uberly amped as he was, it's really a plus for him, as he won.

Yeah, except it's implied that Hulk's power is nigh-limitless, remember when his father (who had just previously drained enough electrical-power to power a small city) tried to drain Hulk? Hulk's power ended up being too much. That and Hulk can throw shit, so a flying Thor, is just a target.

Hulk keeps getting stronger and stronger. Just a matter of time until he lays hands on Thor.

Edit: Hulk's also has an ace up his sleeve, a Wolverine-like healing-factor.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I meant when they 'nuked' him and his dad at the end. I distinctly remember the mushroom cloud being green. Though Youtube doesn't have the fight anywhere.

Edit: Yup.

http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/player/novamov.php?id=kmn85lu80n67e

@ 121.00. Not only is it very, very green but when firing it they say 'Gamma charge away'. Definately not a nuke.

Just checked and neither was the one in the past. Both were Gamma Bombs.

The gamma bomb is a nuke.

No it isn't. Hulk is made and powered by Gamma radiation. It stands to reason that a Gamma bomb would do diddly to him.

Thor didn't destroy the city with that strike. It had like, at the very most a 200 foot radius. Furthermore, those buildings were all crumbling by themselves, as shown when they first entered the realm. Destroying them really is not that impressive of a feat.

Furthermore. '03 Hulk was literally unharmed by a barrage of missiles that carpeted a real city. So gtfo out of here.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No it isn't. Hulk is made and powered by Gamma radiation. It stands to reason that a Gamma bomb would do diddly to him.

In a the Marvel Universe it is. Which makes sense considering a Nuke give off enormous amounts of gamma radiation.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No it isn't. Hulk is made and powered by Gamma radiation. It stands to reason that a Gamma bomb would do diddly to him.

That's non sequitur. The gamma radiation forced a change in Banner's DNA that reacted with the gene therapy treatment his father expiremented on Banner and injected into him, when he was a kid. That's the extent of the Gamma Radiation effects. From there, we cannot conclude, with much accuracy, how he reacts to Gamma Radiation.

To address you point, directly, no, that's not correct. It would destroy all life in addition to the regular nuclear destruction which we clearly saw. In addition, the only time we see damage on Hulk is FROM the Gamma Bomb. What actually stands to reason (and the only non-baseless conclusion) is the Gamma Bomb being the only thing that could visibly harm Hulk which is what we clearly saw on screen. They used it on Hulk for a reason.

Also, the Gamma Bomb is quite clearly a nuclear weapon. It is, for all intents and purposes, a dirty nuclear bomb. Regardless, the destruction is clearly on par with a nuclear weapon because it totally obliterates that town Hulk was in. So arguing that it is not a nuke is actually a red herring: it means nothing to the actual point.

That's non sequitur. The gamma radiation forced a change in Banner's DNA that reacted with the gene therapy treatment his father expiremented on Banner and injected into him, when he was a kid. That's the extent of the Gamma Radiation effects. From there, we cannot conclude, with much accuracy, how he reacts to Gamma Radiation.

He's powered by Gamma radiation. He's overflowing with the stuff. In the final fight with his dad, there is literally gamma radiation pouring out of his chest. Gamma radiation would do jack all to him.

In addition, the only time we see damage on Hulk is FROM the Gamma Bomb.

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No we don't.

Also, the Gamma Bomb is quite clearly a nuclear weapon. It is, for all intents and purposes, a dirty nuclear bomb. Regardless, the destruction is clearly on par with a nuclear weapon because it totally obliterates that town Hulk was in. So arguing that it is not a nuke is actually a red herring: it means nothing to the actual point.

Nuclear explosions are not green and sparkly. 😐

It is not a nuke.

Also from skimming through it looks to me like the explosion happened miles away from the house they were in. His house wasn't even affected by it.

Remember when that big frost giant creature thing attacked and then thor killed it by just flying straight through it really fast....yeah....

Originally posted by steverules_2
Remember when that big frost giant creature thing attacked and then thor killed it by just flying straight through it really fast....yeah....

Because it's safe to say Hulk is as durable as that beast. Yeah.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No it isn't. Hulk is made and powered by Gamma radiation. It stands to reason that a Gamma bomb would do diddly to him.
Yes, it is.

It was a nuke in the comics and it was a nuke in the movie.

Deal with it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He's powered by Gamma radiation. He's overflowing with the stuff. In the final fight with his dad, there is literally gamma radiation pouring out of his chest. Gamma radiation would do jack all to him.

Definitely wrong.

If he were overflowing with it, all humans around him would die.

Additionally, I'd like to see you support the claim that that stuff was Gamma Radiation, because, Gamma Radiation is so far beyond our human eyes to be able to pick up. For the simple fact that it is more like a cloud, we can see it, it's definitely not gamma radiation. Real gamma radiation is invisible to our human eyes (and to a very absurd extent) and travels at..........the speed of light.

Originally posted by Nephthys
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No we don't.

Except that we do. 😬

You may be confusing the 2008 Hulk for the 2003 one.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nuclear explosions are not green and sparkly. 😐

It is not a nuke.


I'd like to point out, again, that this line of discussion is irrelevant in addition to it actually being a nuke (meaning, it IS a nuke and whether or not it's a nuke is quite irrelevant.)

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, it is.

It was a nuke in the comics and it was a nuke in the movie.

Deal with it.

I like this version of Mindset, better. Direct. Less questions.

Definitely wrong.

If he were overflowing with it, all humans around him would die.

I didn't mean literally. 🙄


Additionally, I'd like to see you support the claim that that stuff was Gamma Radiation, because, Gamma Radiation is so far beyond our human eyes to be able to pick up.

The Hulk is powered by Gamma radiation. When has this not been a thing that was true?

For the simple fact that it is more like a cloud, we can see it, it's definitely not gamma radiation. Real gamma radiation is invisible to our human eyes (and to a very absurd extent) and travels at..........the speed of light.

Fantasy super hero movie says hi.

It looks exactly like the gamma bomb does. Its gamma.

Except that we do. erm

You may be confusing the 2008 Hulk for the 2003 one.

I went through the entire movie looking for a scene of him getting nuked (other than the one at the end) and I found nothing. If you could direct me to this part, please do so.


I'd like to point out, again, that this line of discussion is irrelevant in addition to it actually being a nuke (meaning, it IS a nuke and whether or not it's a nuke is quite irrelevant.)

'Its a nuke because it totally is a nuke, so its a nuke.'

👆

Spoiler:
This is sarcasm btw. Way to ****ing fail DDM!

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Thor didn't destroy the city with that strike. It had like, at the very most a 200 foot radius. Furthermore, those buildings were all crumbling by themselves, as shown when they first entered the realm. Destroying them really is not that impressive of a feat.

Furthermore. '03 Hulk was literally unharmed by a barrage of missiles that carpeted a real city. So gtfo out of here.

That Thor attack definitely was bigger than 200 feet.

By the first time we saw the scene pan out it looked like it had already consumed a few football fields in Radius and they still got chased all the way back to the edge of the cliffs before it stopped.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I didn't mean literally. 🙄[/spoiler]

There's no way that this statement could be true at all in context with your previous posts.

However, I'll leave it be.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Hulk is powered by Gamma radiation. When has this not been a thing that was true?

Which version because Ang Lee's Hulk does not appear to be powered by Gamma Radiation, at all. It was just a catalyst for activating some genes. That's the extent of the role Gamma Radiation played in that version of the Hulk and no further "power-ups" were given from gr.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Fantasy super hero movie says hi.

Let's make sure I understand you correctly: You made up an attribute of the Hulk (it's also wrong as the movie contradicts your claim, as I've pointed out) and are now justifying that with "it's just fiction"?

You didn't support your claim so you cannot fall back on it being fiction, yet. If you support your claim that the movie calls it (I'll even accept commentary) gr, then I'll concede that the writers were complete idiots.

I'll save you time: Since I've seen the making of, commentary, and featurettes, I don't believe that much effort is necessary on your part.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I went through the entire movie looking for a scene of him getting nuked and I found nothing. If you could direct me to this part, please do so.

What you're doing is trying to skirt the point by pretending there's a massive difference between being at ground zero and a few hundred yards away from ground zero.

Originally posted by Nephthys
'Its a nuke because it totally is a nuke, so its a nuke.'

👆

If that were my point.

You did see my pointS, right? You know, the ones that show that it's clearly a nuke (a more advanced version of a dirty bomb ("gamma bomb" is not new to Ang Lee's Hulk. ) and irrelevant because it had the same effects of a nuke.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Spoiler:
This is sarcasm btw. Way to ****ing fail DDM!

Ahhhh, the ol' "it was sarcasm" ploy. I'm not buying it. If you want to troll someone, go bother RJ: he loves it.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Thor didn't destroy the city with that strike. It had like, at the very most a 200 foot radius. Furthermore, those buildings were all crumbling by themselves, as shown when they first entered the realm. Destroying them really is not that impressive of a feat.

Furthermore. '03 Hulk was literally unharmed by a barrage of missiles that carpeted a real city. So gtfo out of here.

200 feet. Harharharharhar, your eyes fail you.

And was harmed by Gamma Dogs.

But yeah DDM will you calculate that feat?