Thor vs. Hulk

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Gamma charge isn't evidence of Hulk withstanding a Nuclear level weapon. If it was even intended to be close, the special effects team failed. Other than that, one can only argue it was a highly concentrated attack but even then, it didn't affect the landscape.

No, you're wrong in every single point you just made. It was significantly into the Nuclear level of destruction and he was within less than 2 or 3 hundred yards of the ground zero detonation.

If this is the only thing the Thor side can do is pretend something didn't happen in another film, you might as well not post those comments.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Surprised no one has yet to mention the Bifrost bridge scene and the energy blast Thor tanked. Especially considering the power the Bifrost could channel.

That's completely incomparable feat. We do not know how strong that bridge was as it was never stated. We also do not know how much energy it is channeling because opening a wormhole to that size would require more energy than the universe has in it. So, obviously, the technology is channeling less energy than you think it is by many times more than x10^90 joules. Movie feats only. 🙂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Anyways, Thor wins.

Based on your logic, he loses horribly.

If movie Thor fights Bana's Hulk like they do in the comics -- usually h2h -- Bana's Hulk takes this. He was much closer to his comic version than Thor was to his, and in the comics, when they fight, it's generally a stalemate (iirc). With Mjolnir...then Thor could win, at least via bfr.

Hulk loses his common sense and thinking capability when he tranforms, doesn't he? He can no longer strategise, because he acts only to keep himself safe and picks up what's in his way. So yeah, if a tank "happens" to be in the way. Downtown LA... okay. so he can throw cars and trucks, uproot lights, bus station shelters, but can he uproot skyscrapers or occupying-whole-city-block's-worth of buildings. It depends if Thor can dodge, weather, or destroy the things that Hulk can throw.

Thor is not human, but god. He doesn't lose his mind when his temper flares. He is Thor, angry or not angry. And he's the god of War. He'll always be five steps in front of either Bana or Norton Hulk. He'll know better ways to attack, and he can react with feelings other than anger. Like... defense, and self-preservation. The one with the thinking capability wins this.

Thor doesn't fight smarter than the US military.

Thor can't dish out damage superior to what the US military dished out to the Hulk, which the Hulk tanked.

Thor's entire fighting style in the movies resembled that of a Brawler. He did not use wily tactics, did not take adaptive measures, his strategy for killing the giant frost monster was, literally, flying into it. Brute strength is all he knows.

At this point I'm tired of repeating myself, so I'm just going to quote this post forever until someone addresses it properly.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Hulk loses his common sense and thinking capability when he tranforms, doesn't he? He can no longer strategise, because he acts only to keep himself safe and picks up what's in his way. So yeah, if a tank "happens" to be in the way. Downtown LA... okay. so he can throw cars and trucks, uproot lights, bus station shelters, but can he uproot skyscrapers or occupying-whole-city-block's-worth of buildings. It depends if Thor can dodge, weather, or destroy the things that Hulk can throw.

Thor is not human, but god. He doesn't lose his mind when his temper flares. He is Thor, angry or not angry. And he's the god of War. He'll always be five steps in front of either Bana or Norton Hulk. He'll know better ways to attack, and he can react with feelings other than anger. Like... defense, and self-preservation. The one with the thinking capability wins this.

Incorrect, Hulk's intelligence is greatly reduced, but he's not a retard. When it comes to fighting, he retains his wits and cunning.

Examples:

-Quickly trying to use the tank turret as a shield when the other tank turned its gun on him (though it ultimately failed due to armor piercing rounds). Shows intelligence.

-Grabbing the rocket, biting off the head and using it as a weapon in return. Shows intelligence.

-Using his rage to try and overload his father's absorbing powers. Shows intelligence.

"God" in the film isn't what that word implies. The Asgardians were portrayed as a super-advanced race; why ancient humans viewed them as gods. Thor's not devine, least it wasn't implied in the film. Thor's fighting style in the film was to charge in and smash, he wasn't some master tactician.

08 Hulk was smart. He did a thunderclap after all 131

Hulk ftw

We'll need more feats from movie Thor. Although if it's one thing that was shown in the movie Hulks, it's that he can bleed, he can get knocked out, and he can get hurt.

So it's a tossup. Since we never saw Thor actually get challenged in any fight, it's pretty hard to tell what the limits of his powers were.

I think Thor wins. Technically, Hulk did not "tank" that gamma nuke. I think it was implied that the explosion made him revert back to Bruce Banner.

Thor has shown that he can do crazy powerful feats with Mjolnir.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Thor doesn't fight smarter than the US military.

Thor can't dish out damage superior to what the US military dished out to the Hulk, which the Hulk tanked.

Thor's entire fighting style in the movies resembled that of a Brawler. He did not use wily tactics, did not take adaptive measures, his strategy for killing the giant frost monster was, literally, flying into it. Brute strength is all he knows.

At this point I'm tired of repeating myself, so I'm just going to quote this post forever until someone addresses it properly.

Brawler or not, he's on a different power scale than Hulk.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican

Thor can't dish out damage superior to what the US military dished out to the Hulk, which the Hulk tanked.

Blaxican has learned "dadudemon's posting rule #7: dealing with people who post in circles only deserve re-quoted posts.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
I think Thor wins. Technically, Hulk did not "tank" that gamma nuke. I think it was implied that the explosion made him revert back to Bruce Banner.

Agreed with this. Not sure if Thor will win this, but I find it ridiculous that hulk fans claim that he tanked that bomb. Hulk still gets hurt people, and can get knocked out, regen or no.

If my memory serves me correctly, that nuke knocked him out and reverted him back to Banner.

How did he "tank" it if he returned back to his human state. Granted, it isn't showed but it was implied. Thor has shown he can crumble entire cities with Mjolnir, fly through giant beings, speedblitz, create violent storms, etc.

With all that said, Hulk is probably the stronger and tougher H2H combatant but as long as Thor is in possession of
Mjolnir, I think he wins no matter which version of Hulk we're discussing.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican

Thor can't dish out damage superior to what the US military dished out to the Hulk, which the Hulk tanked.

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Thor clearly crumbled a large portion of land on the Frost planet. I'm not arguing that Thor is physically on par with Hulk. But his feats IMO are more powerful with the aid of Mjolnir. Destroying the Destroyer, crumbling the city, speedblitzing the Frost Giant, and flying in and of itself. He can move much faster than Hulk. Say Thor does throw the hammer and Hulk catches it(or rather attempts to). Wouldn't the hammer drop to the floor being unmovable. It's not like Hulk is going to lift it.

In a pure slugfest Hulk might win but Thor has too many tricks up his sleeve with the aid of Mjolnir.

Thor crumbled a large portion of city that was already crumbling before he got there. Do you really think that that is impressive? Do you really think that a barrage of missiles wouldn't have done the same thing?

My point is that Thor has zero feats that are superior to what the US military did to the Hulk. There is not a single thing, not a single thing, that he could do that Ross with his limitless resources that is the Untied States military, didn't already try against Hulk, all of which failed. Ergo, his tricks are useless.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Thor crumbled a large portion of city that was already crumbling before he got there. Do you really think that that is impressive? Do you really think that a barrage of missiles wouldn't have done the same thing?

My point is that Thor has zero feats that are superior to what the US military did to the Hulk. There is not a single thing, not a single thing, that he could do that Ross with his limitless resources that is the Untied States military, didn't already try against Hulk, all of which failed. Ergo, his tricks are useless.