Magneto vs Cloak....

Is Cloak Magneto's worst nightmare come to life?

Cloak immediately goes intangible, covers the battlefield in absolute darkness, and attempts to BFR him to the Dark Dimension...

What defense does Mags have to this?

If Mags attempts to fly, Cloak simply materializes directly above him and envelopes him that way; again, how does Mags defend himself from this?

Any failed attempts to BFR Mags to the Dark Dimension result in Cloak immediately going back intangible and restarting the whole process...

All in all, this seems like a bad matchup for Mags; anyone here disagree with this? And if so, how could Magneto beat Cloak?

CIS/PIS are off...who wins?

interesting match up. strong willed people have survived cloak's darkness in the past though and been relatively unscathed. cloak's head is always a weakness as well. i can't see the darkness taking mags out for long. he could go with the 'affect cloak's blood' route i suppose or just get him from behind with some random debris.

mags 10/10

yes

you're tipping balls LoM. Magneto will rip him to pieces as his powers have worked on intangible objects and characters before

let me ask this:

LoM, what appearance of Cloak's are you using to say he has anything near the power necessary to take on Magneto?

he's also outreacted kurt while mid-teleport and can open wormholes, albeit his is a rare feat.

Dagger has used her shields to protect herself from Cloak's Dark Dimension, I imagine Mags could easily do the same.

Intangible characters can still have the electromagnetic activity in their brains messed with, and given Mags connection to energy, being invis/intangible wont hide him.

Magneto would dominate Cloak. magneto has to many defensive and offensive weapons.

lol, this is also a CIS off magneto

just to point out, sealing someone in the Dark Dimension is hardly a win [Cloak and Dagger v2 10]:

This seems like a feat magneto could replicate easily

You guys bring up some valid points...

I have never seen Mags affect anything intangible with his powers; if he can indeed affect intangible flesh (which seems like a stretch in my honest opinion; when Cloak is in intangible, he himself is mostly in the DD...how is Mags supposed to be able to affect him; Mags lacks magic), then all bets are off as Mags could rip him apart...

As pertains those scans, I wish they were higher res as I cant make out the text and the images themselves are not as clear as I'd like; is that Doctor Doom in those scans?

He has a mystic background and thus I'd assume that that is how he getting out of the DD; using his magic...

Magneto lacks magic and as we all know, if he leaves you there long enough, you die...so how does Magneto get out in the 1st place?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You guys bring up some valid points...

Originally posted by inimalist
LoM, what appearance of Cloak's are you using to say he has anything near the power necessary to take on Magneto?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I have never seen Mags affect anything intangible with his powers; if he can indeed affect intangible flesh, then all bets are off as Mags could rip him apart...

he doesn't need to affect his flesh, he needs to affect his electromagnetic energy, such as that in his brain. This is already intangible, re: energy, so there is no reason at all to believe Cloak would have any defense against it.

and like 753 mentioned, Magneto's more exotic powers would also be of use here.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
As pertains those scans, I wish they were higher res as I cant make out the text and the images themselves are not as clear as I'd like; is that Doctor Doom in those scans?

you... you can click the thumbnail for a larger version... and magnify the image once... oh, nm

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
He has a mystic background and thus I'd assume that that is how he getting out of the DD; using his magic...

nothing about his magic getting him out, in fact, the narration mentions his "enchanted armor" in the same breath as saying his blasts are ineffective. It seems it is when Doom collects himself against the mind games of the DD that he is able to escape.

Magneto is known for being resistant if not outright immune to such games

really though, just answer this:

Originally posted by inimalist
LoM, what appearance of Cloak's are you using to say he has anything near the power necessary to take on Magneto?

because I can't find the comics you are reading, obviously

The key to this fight, IMHO, is if Magneto can affect an intangible Cloak with his powers; Cloaks chances ride heavily upon this question...

If Mags cant (due to the nature of Cloaks intangibility), then Cloaks winning chances are very good; if Mags can then Cloak's chances diminish greatly...

Although Cloak could still attempt to get the advantage and BFR Mags with stealth...

Posting on a ps3 at the moment; not all functions work as they would on a PC...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Posting on a ps3 at the moment; not all functions work as they would on a PC...

ah, my bad

can magneto affect shadowcat while she is intangible?

Ah...so Doom got out by attacking the Beast that waits inside the DD...

Originally posted by inimalist
can magneto affect shadowcat while she is intangible?

Honestly not sure; I've never been a big reader of Xmen comics, but since you are asking the question I am betting you have seen him affect her...

Of course I'd argue that Cloaks intangibility is of a different nature (more mystical) so he might not have the same success against him...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Ah...so Doom got out by attacking the Beast that waits inside the DD...

something like that

I'll admit, its not entirely clear, but it is from a Cloak and Dagger comic itself.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Honestly not sure; I've never been a big reader of Xmen comics, but since you are asking the question I am betting you have seen him affect her...

Of course I'd argue that Cloaks intangibility is of a different nature (more mystical) so he might not have the same success against him...

I actually don't know, though iirc I've heard it said before

I still don't see what intangibility would have to do with magnitism... as it isn't tangible in the first place