Galactus & Silver Surfer VS Odin, Thor, & Loki

Originally posted by zopzop
Re-read that. I said I don't THINK any Earth deity should be able to even scratch Galactus but Marvel thinks otherwise. We have to go by on panel feats and common foes to determine who'd win, especially if they never fought before.

You hate Galactus, and show it every thread. Covering it up doesn't work when you blatantly go against it.

You're not going to fool this guy with dubious disclaimers.

Originally posted by zopzop
Actually it would take more than one shot and later Galactus would have to replenish his power store from the strain of breaking through Thanos' shields. Odin wasn't even winded in his fight vs Thanos.

That, plus that's the fastest Galactus has ever been drained, but whatever, he one shotted Thanos through all his shields, while Thanos didn't seem to use any against Odin.

Don't leave out the most important part when you bring something up is all I'm saying.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Exactly what I said. It's contradicting.

You hate Galactus, and show it every thread. Covering it up doesn't work when you blatantly go against it.

You're not going to fool this guy with dubious disclaimers.

It's not contradicting at all. Everyone on the board seems to think that Galactus >>>>>>>>Odin, yet on panel evidence is completely the opposite of this. Galactus just recently busted a galaxy, yet Odin's been doing it since the 60s/70s.

One shotted.
Thanos gave up. Thanos didn't give up against Odin after multiple shots.

That, plus that's the fastest Galactus has ever been drained, but whatever, he one shotted Thanos through all his shields, while Thanos didn't seem to use any against Odin.

Don't leave out the most important part when you bring something up is all I'm saying.

Thanos was there to warn Galactus not pick a fight. Galactus even said one MORE shot would drop Thanos' shields. How can that be one shotting? How could Thanos send Galactus REELING yet be unable to even budge Odin? Galactus needed to feed after one blast vs Thanos shields, Odin wasn't even working up a sweat.

Originally posted by zopzop
It's not contradicting at all. Everyone on the board seems to think that Galactus >>>>>>>>Odin, yet on panel evidence is completely the opposite of this. Galactus just recently busted a galaxy, yet Odin's been doing it since the 60s/70s.

I don't think you realize what you're talking about. In fact, you're only proving what I've been saying...

Also lol at expecting a being who feeds off planets to destroy galaxy's worths of planets. Maybe we can judge Spider-Man's power level off of how many steaks he can destroy in a punch.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos was there to warn Galactus not pick a fight. Galactus even said one MORE shot would drop Thanos' shields. How can that be one shotting? How could Thanos send Galactus REELING yet be unable to even budge Odin? Galactus needed to feed after one blast vs Thanos shields, Odin wasn't even working up a sweat.

Originally posted by zopzop

Thanos was there to warn Galactus not pick a fight. Galactus even said one MORE shot would drop Thanos' shields. How can that be one shotting? How could Thanos send Galactus REELING yet be unable to even budge Odin? Galactus needed to feed after one blast vs Thanos shields, Odin wasn't even working up a sweat. [/B]

What you failed to mention is that Thanos has been upgraded since his fight with Odin. So while he now had the power to knock back an unprepared Galactus, he knew he was screwed when it was Galactus' turn to attack.

What would a fight between Odin and Thanos be like now? 😕

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
"It's not contradicting at all because Odin has better feats"

I don't think you realize what you're talking about. In fact, you're only proving what I've been saying...

Trust me I do. I don't THINK he should be in Galactus' league BUT on panel feats say otherwise. You can read right?

Also lol at expecting a being who feeds off planets to destroy galaxy's worths of planets. Maybe we can judge Spider-Man's power level off of how many steaks he can destroy in a punch.

Then why did he destroy all those potential meal planets in the galaxy the Annihilation Wave was in?

Thanos was there to help save Thor. Odin even said he hasn't had a challenge that hard in ages. How can that be better? How could Thanos withstand all of Odin's shots, but was unable to stand up to one by Galactus? Odin needed to pull out Gungir to effect shieldless Thanos, and Galactus did it through all of Thanos's shields with one shot.

Odin wasn't going all out at all. We KNOW if he wanted to he could amp off the land of Asgard and the life forces of the Asgardians and Thanos would have been reduced to ashes. When he gave his power to Thor so he could go one on one vs a galaxy busting being, Surtur, he drew enough power from the land of Asgard to amp himself up to Seth's level (who had drained his entire Pantheon of power).

Originally posted by zopzop
Trust me I do. I don't THINK he should be in Galactus' league BUT on panel feats say otherwise. You can read right?

But I'm curious about your on panel feats, seeing as you didn't even know Galactus was weakened in the Strange scenario. Bring these on panel feats from Galactus forth, and I'll give you the context. I'm serious here, let's see what you think afterwards. Low feats preferred... which I guess I don't have to mention.

Originally posted by zopzop
Then why did he destroy all those potential meal planets in the galaxy the Annihilation Wave was in?

Originally posted by zopzop
Odin wasn't going all out at all. We KNOW if he wanted to he could amp off the land of Asgard and the life forces of the Asgardians and Thanos would have been reduced to ashes. When he gave his power to Thor so he could go one on one vs a galaxy busting being, Surtur, he drew enough power from the land of Asgard to amp himself up to Seth's level (who had drained his entire Pantheon of power).

Also, lol at Odin not going all out because he wasn't amping himself using Asgard like he's done in those... few appearances.
Which would have made that Odin as per KMC rules...

Originally posted by zopzop
Was he weakened at the time? I don't recall. I need to find what issue it's from, because I don't remember the scan mentioning him being weakened or hungry.

EDIT :

He was weakened. Here's the scan :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/41615/1211251-1154140_galactusbeatdown1_600x890_s_super.jpg

Oh well. I still say Team Two.

in infinity war, when a space-pirate guy invaded galactus' ship, he made fools out of nova, silver surfer, and strange, yet galactus killed him on a whim.

then there was infinity war again when strange himself admitted that he would be no match for galactus and willingly submitted himself to him. there was also the time when strange said something like (paraphrasing here) "the only way to fight galactus is to find your hat, pick it up, and run."

all of those showings are far more recent than the Ikonn showing so... galactus >>>>>>> classic dr. strange.

I hope Galactus owns Odin. He is such an arrogant prick/jerk.

Anyway Galactus wins this fight.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Right, contradicting.

Ok so you dont' comprehend what you read? KKs got it.

But I'm curious about your on panel feats, seeing as you didn't even know Galactus was weakened in the Strange scenario. Bring these on panel feats from Galactus forth, and I'll give you the context. I'm serious here, let's see what you think afterwards. Low feats preferred... which I guess I don't have to mention.

I corrected myself and even presented the scan. What on panel feats by Galactus? To my knowledge he's only done two things worth mentioning feat wise : teleporting a "galaxy" in some Rom issue in the 80s and busting a galaxy in Annihilation Wave.

Because he was pissed off from being captured and drained for so long. That's like the only time he's outright destroyed planets outside the small planetoids in the In-Betweener fight, and him potentially destroying some in the IG fight.

Yes pissed and hungry, why'd he destroy potential meals?

I like how this went from an attempt to shit on Galactus, to going to "Well, Odin wasn't going all out you see"

But he wasn't, you know that right? Like why not press the advantage when he had Thanos on his knees?

Also, lol at Odin not going all out because he wasn't amping himself using Asgard like he's done in those... few appearances.
Which would have made that Odin as per KMC rules...

He's done it more than once no? So it's a valid feat.

Originally posted by zopzop
Ok so you dont' comprehend what you read? KKs got it.

Originally posted by zopzop
I corrected myself and even presented the scan. What on panel feats by Galactus? To my knowledge he's only done two things worth mentioning feat wise : teleporting a "galaxy" in some Rom issue in the 80s and busting a galaxy in Annihilation Wave.

Actually, let's try something else.
Odin destroying galaxies was a shared feat with Seth that didn't even effect the planet they were on... oh BTW, I guess there's no reason to not bring this up then, but Galactus and Tyrant were said to have destroyed galaxies.
The other time Odin destroyed galaxies? Oh ya, there is no other time. The closest is when Infinity was wiping out planets one by one and Odin said "Galaxies fall".

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes pissed and hungry, why'd he destroy potential meals?

You know why he doesn't destroy galaxies or try to. You know him wiping it clean once was just because of the circumstances. Why are you trying to pursue this?

"He did it once, he should do it all the time!"

Originally posted by zopzop
But he wasn't, you know that right? Like why not press the advantage when he had Thanos on his knees?

Also, he thought he was dead.

Originally posted by zopzop
He's done it more than once no? So it's a valid feat.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Right, contradicting

Reading comprehension................fail.

Oh ya, you're the guy who only thinks things matter if they operate on galaxy level... nevermind. So, it's not even low feats at all, it's just him lacking 'galaxy level' feats. lol

Actually, let's try something else.
Odin destroying galaxies was a shared feat with Seth that didn't even effect the planet they were on...
The other time Odin destroyed galaxies? Oh ya, there is no other time. The closest is when Infinity was wiping out planets one by one and Odin said "Galaxies fall".

Actually no I was just using their best feats as a point of reference power wise.

No. During his fight with Seth, they : shook the multiverse, threatened reality with destruction, AND reignited long dead stars throughout the galaxy. Keep in mind Odin, even after he lent Thor his power to fight off Surtur (a galaxy buster), amped from Asgard itself enough power to meet Seth as an equal (the same Seth who had the power of his ENTIRE pantheon).

Odin has busted a galaxy at least twice I think. I'll have to check the scans.

Because he was pissed off after suffering the worst he's ever had to withstand?

You know why he doesn't destroy galaxies or try to. You know him wiping it clean once was just because of the circumstances. Why are you trying to pursue this?

"He did it once, he should do it all the time!"

No, you said he doesn't bust galaxies because it wouldn't make sense seeing as how he feeds on planets to live. I merely said if that's true, why did he wipe out a galaxy in AW when he desperately needed sustenance?

Because he gave him a chance to surrender? He thought he was dead, realized he wasn't, and then gave him a chance to stop.

Also, he thought he was dead.

True, once he heard him speaking, why didn't Odin press the attack while Thanos was still on his knees? Because Odin wasn't' going all out.

It doesn't matter if it's a valid feat or not, or viable in battle. What matters is it doesn't mean Odin wasn't 'going all out' just because he never absorbed energy from Asgard, when it's so rarely used.
He tried to win using his own power, his own power which is relevant to KMC.

News flash, Asgard and the lifeforce of the Asgardians ARE his power. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to drain them on a whim. Odin, at any time could have press the attack when he had Thanos down, but he didn't'.

Odin can't access his full power without becoming giant sized. To compensate for this, he created the royal Scepter which better allows him to channel his inner power. Odin can further vastly increase his power -besides entering his full power mode- by tapping into the Odin Force imbued into Asgard and the Asgardians.

In other words, Odin wasn't going all out without even taking into account the other two energy reserves.

If we start using Thanos as a measuring stick, Galactus doesn't come off looking much more powerful than Odin. Especially when you consider that Odin can become noticeably more powerful without a thought, and can even go further by drawing on Asgard/Asgardians. Whatever, Starlin loves his pets.

Originally posted by zopzop
Reading comprehension................fail.

Originally posted by zopzop
Actually no I was just using their best feats as a point of reference power wise.

Galaxies bro, galaxies

But anyway, I understand you've probably never read a comic involving Galactus, so let me help you out for the future... or so you try to shit on him less in the next thread:

Galactus' power held off against the Pre Retcon Beyonder
Galactus stalemated the In-Betweener after just waking up from a coma where he was hungry going into
Galactus was about eat Mephisto's realm
Galactus held off the Galactus Engine by himself
Galactus beat full power Tyrant
Killed a Watcher in the Annihilation purge
Teleported a galaxy
One shotted Thanos like Odin didn't
Ate the Elders (which included Grandmaster and Collector who are powerful in their own right)
Was going to be used to destroy two universes
Fraction of knowledge from his tech created Korvac
etc

Originally posted by zopzop
No. During his fight with Seth, they : shook the multiverse, threatened reality with destruction, AND reignited long dead stars throughout the galaxy. Keep in mind Odin, even after he lent Thor his power to fight off Surtur (a galaxy buster), amped from Asgard itself enough power to meet Seth as an equal (the same Seth who had the power of his ENTIRE pantheon).

Odin has busted a galaxy at least twice I think. I'll have to check the scans.

He got beaten by Seth... also, I hope you remember how Seth got beaten in that arc...
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-26.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-27.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-28.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-29.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-30.jpg

Also this:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-19.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-20.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-21.jpg

IMPRESSIVE!
I like the part where winds enough to uproot a redwood gave him pause, and he called it impressive as well.

OK. But even if true, that's a far cry from this:

Originally posted by zopzop
Galactus just recently busted a galaxy, yet Odin's been doing it since the 60s/70s.

Don't you think?
I mean twice doesn't exactly warrant saying he's been doing it since the 60/70's.

Originally posted by zopzop
No, you said he doesn't bust galaxies because it wouldn't make sense seeing as how he feeds on planets to live. I merely said if that's true, why did he wipe out a galaxy in AW when he desperately needed sustenance?

He just got pissed off and destroy a bunch of shit. His disgust overrode his need to feed. He needed to wipe everything out, and 'everything' happened to spread throughout a galaxy. And the last time he did it, was when he didn't get hungry as fast before you point to the Tyrant fight.
I don't understand how you think you have a point here.

Originally posted by zopzop
True, once he heard him speaking, why didn't Odin press the attack while Thanos was still on his knees? Because Odin wasn't' going all out.

Let's play the plot game though.
Why didn't Seth beat Odin when he had the chance in the "Multiverse shaker"?
Why didn't Seth simply bite Odin's head off when he had him wrapped up instead of talking about it first?
Why didn't Surtur kill Odin when he trapped him when he had the Twilight?
Why didn't why didn't why didn't why didn't (Why didn't)?

You know the answer to those questions? Plot. It's like saying Strange wasn't going all out when he had Zom's power on Hulk just because he let up afterwards.

Originally posted by zopzop
News flash, Asgard and the lifeforce of the Asgardians ARE his power. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to drain them on a whim. Odin, at any time could have press the attack when he had Thanos down, but he didn't'.

I hope you understand this simple concept... but you won't.

well, least you avoided the odin vs galactus issue he was trying to draw you into.... 😐

😛

and their upcoming battle should be a very interesting one. something like 40 years or so in the making. not really sure what i'd like to see happen. i never liked the supposed 'depowering' of the skyfathers that 'supposedly' took place during that celestial arc, (always thought there was plenty of room for them and their power level in marvel cosmology) but likewise i've always been a huge galactus fan and have screamed on the forum for him to have some solid, respectful showings from marvel.

t'is a conundrum wrapped in a paradox methinks. i just hope marvel doesn't eff it up like they so often do.

Originally posted by leonidas
well, least you avoided the odin vs galactus issue he was trying to draw you into.... 😐

Also, this upcoming battle would probably be better written by someone else... but whatever, we're stuck with Fraction so we'll see what happens.

I just hope they have a good battle. If Galactus goes down like a b*tch that's it for him imo barring some clone/avatar level retcon.

You always have the highest hopes for battles involving 'Thorverse' characters and cosmics.

Yet they mostly end up being pretty inconclusive lol.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin can't access his full power without becoming giant sized. To compensate for this, he created the royal Scepter which better allows him to channel his inner power. Odin can further vastly increase his power -besides entering his full power mode- by tapping into the Odin Force imbued into Asgard and the Asgardians.

In other words, Odin wasn't going all out without even taking into account the other two energy reserves.

If we start using Thanos as a measuring stick, Galactus doesn't come off looking much more powerful than Odin. Especially when you consider that Odin can become noticeably more powerful without a thought, and can even go further by drawing on Asgard/Asgardians. Whatever, Starlin loves his pets.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I just hope they have a good battle. If Galactus goes down like a b*tch that's it for him imo barring some clone/avatar level retcon.

But if he goes down like a *****... then my greatest fears are true. I hope Fraction doesn't do that shit though. I mean, he is hyping up the fight, and he isn't Pak, so I have some hopes.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Right, contradicting

That explains why everything you said had to do with galaxies. Actually, that explains why you said the only things worth mentioning had to do with galaxies.

Galaxies bro, galaxies

But anyway, I understand you've probably never read a comic involving Galactus, so let me help you out for the future... or so you try to shit on him less in the next thread:

Galactus' power held off against the Pre Retcon Beyonder
Galactus stalemated the In-Betweener after just waking up from a coma where he was hungry going into
Galactus was about eat Mephisto's realm
Galactus held off the Galactus Engine by himself
Galactus beat full power Tyrant
Killed a Watcher in the Annihilation purge
Teleported a galaxy
One shotted Thanos like Odin didn't
Ate the Elders (which included Grandmaster and Collector who are powerful in their own right)
Was going to be used to destroy two universes
Fraction of knowledge from his tech created Korvac
etc

Yes, I understand that that is Odin and Seth's highest feat by far. You won't see me saying otherwise that's for sure. 👆

He got beaten by Seth... also, I hope you remember how Seth got beaten in that arc...
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-26.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-27.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-28.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-29.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-30.jpg

Also this:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-19.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-20.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Thor_400-21.jpg

IMPRESSIVE!
I like the part where winds enough to uproot a redwood gave him pause, and he called it impressive as well.

OK. But even if true, that's a far cry from this:

Don't you think?
I mean twice doesn't exactly warrant saying he's been doing it since the 60/70's.

It doesn't make sense though. I know it, you know it. There is no "If that's true", it's true. Breaking galaxies doesn't make sense for Galactus, it's only there for feat fish like yourself, or for him to wipe out a galaxy spanning enemy like the Annihilation Wave was if you want an in comics explanation.
Funny thing is, he's still done it more than Odin though... so there's that.

He just got pissed off and destroy a bunch of shit. His disgust overrode his need to feed. He needed to wipe everything out, and 'everything' happened to spread throughout a galaxy. And the last time he did it, was when he didn't get hungry as fast before you point to the Tyrant fight.
I don't understand how you think you have a point here.

Have you ever read comics? Do you understand what the plot is? Then do you understand what PIS is?

Let's play the plot game though.
Why didn't Seth beat Odin when he had the chance in the "Multiverse shaker"?
Why didn't Seth simply bite Odin's head off when he had him wrapped up instead of talking about it first?
Why didn't Surtur kill Odin when he trapped him when he had the Twilight?
Why didn't why didn't why didn't why didn't (Why didn't)?

You know the answer to those questions? Plot. It's like saying Strange wasn't going all out when he had Zom's power on Hulk just because he let up afterwards.

Which isn't relevant to the forum. <= The point.
Battles start on a neutral ground here, which wouldn't be Asgard. Which was the point of me saying that. Like it wouldn't be in Asgard here.

I hope you understand this simple concept... but you won't.