Originally posted by DARTH POWERyou mean, Grundy... who was amped on Magic and siphoning power from Amazo?
Thor stomps.. Even Hulk EMH would have a decent shot at Supes JLU.. He culdn't take Grundy in one episode, and almost got put down by Mongul.
And Mongul... who Supes let win and then wtfpwned after the cannon thing was disarmed? 😬
Originally posted by JayDaDon
^Yup it hasn't got much better than that. I don't think they said how powerful the nega explosion was.
They said it's blast radius was the entire planet, so that's a measure of its power.
It's not a low showing to get knocked out by it, even if it was just from the aftershock of the blast which was far enough away to not be felt on Earth. The problem is that Thor has been knocked out TOO many times on the show, and sometimes several episodes consecutively.
Originally posted by Estacado
I would like to see how would Superman tank this at 6:07
That would take him out for sure. Question is would he actually hit Superman? Seemed to take forever to charge the attack.
I think by averages Thor edges it, but Superman in his Captain Marvel form or Darkseid form would beat Thor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2BvSqqmidM
Originally posted by CosmicComet
His durability is plot based, but the highest feat I've seen from him thus far, and correct me if I'm not up to date (haven't seen the most recent episodes), is when he took on a point blank city busting blast from Kang's ship, and all it did was KO him.
Originally posted by D-Block
Isn't that when Ironman said I never seen him fly that fast?
yeah, he flew out of the atmosphere in seconds, effectively putting him in the mach X thousands.
For high feats, we might say Superman would blitz.
But for high feats, we can just as easily say Thor could tank any punch Supes could throw at him.
He was also strong enough to slow down the weight of Manhattan FALLING on him.
This Thor shits on DCAU Superman in durability and strength.
Yet he got put down by Ultron and Wonderman blasts. Yeah he's tough, but let's not get carried away.
If Superman hit him like he hit Cpt Marvel, Darkseid, or anyone he sent flying after a super haymaker, Thor will be hurt.
He's as powerful as Thor too. People always confuse versatility with power. In Destroyer and Clash the power and speed he displayed was overwhelming. When you can move that fast and deliver punches that seem like mini nukes, that is power.
The only guys Supes couldn't beat physically were Amazo level guys. And Thor isn't anywhere near that level.
Originally posted by Allankles
[B]Yet he got put down by Ultron and Wonderman blasts. Yeah he's tough, but let's not get carried away.
I'm not. I don't believe you understood my point.
If Superman hit him like he hit Cpt Marvel, Darkseid, or anyone he sent flying after a super haymaker, Thor will be hurt.
He's as powerful as Thor too.
People always confuse versatility with power. In Destroyer and Clash the power and speed he displayed was overwhelming. When you can move that fast and deliver punches that seem like mini nukes, that is power.
Certainly not here. As Superman is at best equal in versatility and far lesser in power.
We've seen the impact of his full force punches, they do nothing but level buildings as collateral damage, as seen vs Captain Marvel and BrainiacSeid. No need for extrapolations that aren't supported. He is not close to nuke level by feats by any means.
The only guys Supes couldn't beat physically were Amazo level guys. And Thor isn't anywhere near that level.
Amazo's strength and durability feats do not compare to Thor's at all. That being said, I'd pick Amazo over this Thor, but the latter would put up a better fight than Superman did.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
I'm not. I don't believe you understood my point.
I do. You're describing a character that I haven't seen on EHM. For a start, they haven't faced the kinds of opponents the JLU constantly faced, save for Odin powered Loki, and Thor didn't do much against him.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Not in any particularly special way of course. Superman doesn't hit as hard as any of the upper end of what Thor has taken. It will be average in damage output compared to what he's taken. On the other hand, DCAU Superman has never been hit by anyone as powerful as EHM Thor, as everyone in DCAU is physically far weaker. Even Amazo.
Upper end of Thor is what exactly? He was ko'd by the shockwave from the NG bomb (I think that was the most he's taken with regards to an impressive attack without dying). The most powerful attack he took flash, was going to kill him - he had to be teleported away to avoid death.
Durability wise they've both taken powerful stuff Shazam's lightning, DS omegas (especially in STAS when he was bombarded by repeated attacks).
And as far as lifting feats go, didn't Superman stop a giant asteroid that was going to devastate all life on the Earth? I
It was also travelling with multiple times more velocity than that piece of NY that Graviton was struggling to keep afloat.
I look at how he's used his strength, not unrelated criteria. His striking force is greater than Thor's, so far.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Certainly not here. As Superman is at best equal in versatility and far lesser in power.We've seen the impact of his full force punches, they do nothing but level buildings as collateral damage, as seen vs Captain Marvel and BrainiacSeid. No need for extrapolations that aren't supported. He is not close to nuke level by feats by any means.
Let's agree to disagree. What have Thor's full force punches done so far? He's as powerful as Thor, based on his striking force. As in superior striking force, while Thor possesses better energy output.
You could make the argument that Supes is more powerful based on his speed, while in top form - in which case he would blitz EMH Thor.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Amazo's strength and durability feats do not compare to Thor's at all. That being said, I'd pick Amazo over this Thor, but the latter would put up a better fight than Superman did.
The guy could tank the whole JLU, I don't even see how you could begin to compare them.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
I'm not. I don't believe you understood my point.Not in any particularly special way of course. Superman doesn't hit as hard as any of the upper end of what Thor has taken. It will be average in damage output compared to what he's taken. On the other hand, DCAU Superman has never been hit by anyone as powerful as EHM Thor, as everyone in DCAU is physically far weaker. Even Amazo.
I'm afraid he does not come close. He is unimpressive in lifting strength, durability, and pure destructive capability. He had ok heat vision, and that was it.
Certainly not here. As Superman is at best equal in versatility and far lesser in power.
We've seen the impact of his full force punches, they do nothing but level buildings as collateral damage, as seen vs Captain Marvel and BrainiacSeid. No need for extrapolations that aren't supported. He is not close to nuke level by feats by any means.
Amazo's strength and durability feats do not compare to Thor's at all. That being said, I'd pick Amazo over this Thor, but the latter would put up a better fight than Superman did.
This...
And Graviton was a BEAST in that show... easily planetary. From appearance... Hulk seems the most powerful on the episode imo.
Thor stomps 10/10 but Superman was amazing in JLU imo... loved the show, he just wasn't that powerful.