Originally posted by -Pr-
I know he is in comics, but for me, the JLU one never used regularly enough.JLU Superman is miles below the comic Superman in terms of strength and durability too.
I thought you were talking about comics. JLU Supes didn't do anything impressive speed wise imo.
He was still beastly though and was PISSED throughout the entire JLU serious. He was cleaning house.
Originally posted by carver9
He was still beastly though and was PISSED throughout the entire JLU serious. He was cleaning house.
Yep, if he gets pissed I actually think he takes this.
He also is quite stong and manged to stop an earth destroying comet from colliding with the earth and his heat vision is very powerful able to incinerate entire legions of para demons and even put Doomsday out of a fight even though he was capable of taking nuclear explosion.
Originally posted by carver9
I thought you were talking about comics. JLU Supes didn't do anything impressive speed wise imo.He was still beastly though and was PISSED throughout the entire JLU serious. He was cleaning house.
He used his speed against Darkseid and Amazo. A couple of other times, but not nearly regularly enough to justify it being used in a fight.
Originally posted by marwash22
you mean, Grundy... who was amped on Magic and siphoning power from Amazo?
It was still just strength he had.. And lets not forget Thor's powers are also magical based, which is a stronger case for Thor beating Supes.
Originally posted by marwash22
And Mongul... who Supes let win and then wtfpwned after the cannon thing was disarmed? 😬
No talking about the second time they fought in the fortress. Supes was winning, but just barely, and had to go all out to win. Supes hesitated for a second, and then Mongul almost won until Wonder Woman saved Supes.
Originally posted by carver9
Yes... Supes is leagues above Thor speed wise.
According to wiki, Thor can travel multiple times the speed of sound in earth's atmosphere, and faster than light in space(in comics at least). I dnt think any version of Supes beats that.
When Iron man says in Avengers EMH "Iv never seen him fly that fast" that suggests he rarely shows off his speed and is a lot faster than people seem to think..
He then not only stops Kang's ships city destroying laser, but also deflects it back to the ship.. Whilst Supes was knocked out by the Justice League space station laser, and could not stop it. That was during JLU too where we see his best feats.
This Thor is more powerful than this Supes.
Originally posted by DARTH POWEROh, "for the man who has everything"...
No talking about the second time they fought in the fortress. Supes was winning, but just barely, and had to go all out to win. Supes hesitated for a second, and then Mongul almost won until Wonder Woman saved Supes.
uh, no. Superman dominated him, turned Mongul's face into hamburger meat... then got distracted by a statue of his dead parents and Mongul cheap-shotted him with a knee to the face. Mongul picked up a boulder and was about to hit Supes with it ( as if that would have defeated him 🙄 ), then Wondy threw the creature on Mongul. Superman was clearly superior; Mongul only got the shots in he did because Superman was distracted by the psychological torture he had just been put through.
Also, again...
Originally posted by marwash22
everything that made Superman "look bad" in JL and JLU was pretty much retconned when "Destroyer" aired and Superman said he had been holding back his entire time on Earth.
Superman pretty much jobbed from Superman: TAS all the way through JLU, "Alive". Thor having magic doesn't mater when he wont be able to land any shots.
Originally posted by marwash22Thor having magic doesn't mater when he wont be able to land any shots.
Yeah just like Mongul, Grundy and Doomsday never hit Supes right?? (Even in JLU) And Thor is a hellva lot faster than any of them. This idea that Thor wnt hit Supes is total bull..
Lets just forget the fact that he flies at incredible speeds, or that he whirls his hammer around seriously fast,,, but just the fact that he can shoot his Lightning in Multiple directions simultaneously is enough evidence he will defo be hitting Supes.
Again this:
"According to wiki, Thor can travel multiple times the speed of sound in earth's atmosphere, and faster than light in space(in comics at least). I dnt think any version of Supes beats that.
When Iron man says in Avengers EMH "Iv never seen him fly that fast" that suggests he rarely shows off his speed and is a lot faster than people seem to think..
He then not only stops Kang's ships city destroying laser, but also deflects it back to the ship.. Whilst Supes was knocked out by the Justice League space station laser, and could not stop it. That was during JLU too where we see his best feats.
This Thor is more powerful than this Supes."
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It was still just strength he had.. And lets not forget Thor's powers are also magical based, which is a stronger case for Thor beating Supes.No talking about the second time they fought in the fortress. Supes was winning, but just barely, and had to go all out to win. Supes hesitated for a second, and then Mongul almost won until Wonder Woman saved Supes.
According to wiki, Thor can travel multiple times the speed of sound in earth's atmosphere, and faster than light in space(in comics at least). I dnt think any version of Supes beats that.
When Iron man says in Avengers EMH "Iv never seen him fly that fast" that suggests he rarely shows off his speed and is a lot faster than people seem to think..
He then not only stops Kang's ships city destroying laser, but also deflects it back to the ship.. Whilst Supes was knocked out by the Justice League space station laser, and could not stop it. That was during JLU too where we see his best feats.
This Thor is more powerful than this Supes.
I don't know how fast Supes could travel on Earths atmosphere but in space, he can achieve light as well.
Basing it off of pure reflexes and outright speed, Supes is above Thor imo. I don't even know why you are debating against this.
Originally posted by marwash22
Superman pretty much jobbed from Superman: TAS all the way through JLU, "Alive". Thor having magic doesn't mater when he wont be able to land any shots.
baka
Also Thor and/or Mjolnir are extremely swift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh_7h0FUWNs#t=6m41s
Thor stomps. Far more powerful, and more than likely superior physically. Superman's speed is so rarely used in combat it's probably less likely to be seen than a large blast form Thor.
Yo.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
He then not only stops Kang's ships city destroying laser, but also deflects it back to the ship.. Whilst Supes was knocked out by the Justice League space station laser, and could not stop it. That was during JLU too where we see his best feats.
correction: Thor had more time to get himself in position to handle that shot, and was KTFO'd by it (I dont remem Supes being knocked OUT by the WTs cannon, but simply got knocked AWAY) as well.
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.correction: Thor had more time to get himself in position to handle that shot, and was KTFO'd by it (I dont remem Supes being knocked OUT by the WTs cannon, but simply got knocked AWAY) as well.
Tazer
Clark was knocked the f*ck out simply without even getting hit by the blast or the after shock. Had to be retrieved later on by someone.
Even if he managed to get into position under the blast, he was completely out of his depth in terms of power. He wouldn't have any real way to stop it.
Yo.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Clark was knocked the f*ck out simply without even getting hit by the blast or the after shock. Had to be retrieved later on by someone.Even if he managed to get into position under the blast, he was completely out of his depth in terms of power. He wouldn't have any real way to stop it.
as I recall, he was right at the rim of the lens just when it fired, but I suppose this is easy enuff to re-verify on YT or some other media site......
however, Im inclined to give him 50/50 odds blocking that shot if he was to have been in-position & prepared for it (like Thor was).
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.as I recall, he was right at the rim of the lens just when it fired, but I suppose this is easy enuff to re-verify on YT or some other media site......
however, Im inclined to give him 50/50 odds blocking that shot if he was to have been in-position & prepared for it (like Thor was).
Tazer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laSFJW853sI&feature=related
He was definitely not hit by the actual beam. Closer to the shockwave created by energy released on activation. And he was definitely knocked out.
What? Why? I doubt he'd live after being caught in the beam. Nevermind deflecting it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laSFJW853sI&feature=relatedHe was definitely not hit by the actual beam. Closer to the shockwave created by energy released on activation. And he was definitely knocked out.
What? Why? I doubt he'd live after being caught in the beam. Nevermind deflecting it.
We can safely say that Thor shit stomps.