Can sexuality be influenced?

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Can sexuality be influenced?

Can sexuality be influenced?

There have been a lot of discussions about the moral aspects of sexual orientation with marriage and parenting being at the center of attention. I'm a parent and I love my son no matter what but I'd be lying if I said I wanted him to be gay. I want him to be straight, meet a good woman someday, and father kids of his own. Therefore I try to influence him to behave as a gentleman, being respectful to girls and treating them like ladies (no rough play). That's what I believe is good for him morality issues aside. Lets say that a gay father wants his son to be like him as well ( you can't fault people for wanting their kids to be as happy as they are if they're happy) let's say that this father teaches his son to view women as direct competition in the world, and to show them no special respect at all, both boys and girls are potential rivals or partners (as he believes). Both fathers love their son and want the best for him.

My question is does a persons sexuality have ANYTHING to do with what they are taught by their parents?

sexuality? sure

whether they are gay or not? no

I think the jury is still out on whether or not someone is born gay. Every mammal species has members that exhibit homosexual behavior but only humans have members that are exclusively homosexual.

From an evolutionary and reproductive standpoint homosexuality makes no sense.

So I'll be politically incorrect and say that my belief is yes, human sexuality and sexual prefrence can be influenced.

Originally posted by inimalist
sexuality? sure

whether they are gay or not? no

Those are the same thing. If they aren't then a woman who tongue kisses her girlfriend in 1970 and happily marries a man in 1980 is a lesbian in 2011.

obviously! normal people are influenced by god, gays by the devil and are all going to hell, doesn´t anyone read the bible nowadays🙂

Re: Can sexuality be influenced?

Originally posted by The MISTER
There have been a lot of discussions about the moral aspects of sexual orientation with marriage and parenting being at the center of attention. I'm a parent and I love my son no matter what but I'd be lying if I said I wanted him to be gay. I want him to be straight, meet a good woman someday, and father kids of his own. Therefore I try to influence him to behave as a gentleman, being respectful to girls and treating them like ladies (no rough play). That's what I believe is good for him morality issues aside. Lets say that a gay father wants his son to be like him as well ( you can't fault people for wanting their kids to be as happy as they are if they're happy) let's say that this father teaches his son to view women as direct competition in the world, and to show them no special respect at all, both boys and girls are potential rivals or partners (as he believes). Both fathers love their son and want the best for him.

My question is does a persons sexuality have ANYTHING to do with what they are taught by their parents?

You are born gay. Many people think that's not the case but I know it's true.

My younger brother is gay. My father is a wealthy business man, loves guns, smokes cigars, cusses, really into military, etc. Our family is just not the type that you'd think would have a gay person in.

But he is, and looking back to when he was little, I can see it then to. There is nothing wrong with being gay.

Teach your children to be kind to others, and to love unconditionally, no matter who it is that they love.

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Originally posted by Utsukushii
You are born gay. Many people think that's not the case but I know it's true.

My younger brother is gay. My father is a wealthy business man, loves guns, smokes cigars, cusses, really into military, etc. Our family is just not the type that you'd think would have a gay person in.

But he is, and looking back to when he was little, I can see it then to. There is nothing wrong with being gay.

Teach your children to be kind to others, and to love unconditionally, no matter who it is that they love.


I agree that there is nothing wrong with being whoever you happen to be. The fact remains though that being some things makes life more difficult. If you enjoy eating flesh at the morgue you are hurting nobody yet that would be more frowned upon than being a convicted murderer. Your environment has much to do with making you who you are in many non-sexual aspects, for example your favorite team, or food. Why would sexual preferences be excluded?

When you tell me that your father is a wealthy business man, I can't help but think that he might have been extremely busy, and the first child usually receives a lot of their parents attention(for good or for bad) because the total experience is new.Younger siblings have less novelty appeal, realistically. Your Dad also seems so stereotypically "manly" that child rearing may have been considered your Mom's job. Was your Dad spending a lot of time with the family or was he away a lot on business?

I ask because I see some young boys emulate their mother in homes where they interact with her most of the time rather than their father if he's in the picture at all. It's not uncommon for a comment like "child, please!" to be used by a lot of women. Wouldn't it be normal for a comment from the parent (mother or father) to become what a child is likely to repeat?

The MISTER, it might help if you add some evidence supporting yourself from some credible sources. Right now, you're just offering personal theories and naming connections that may not actually exist.

I don't intend to sound rude; however, I think it'd help discussion. If it stays the course, this thread will probably degenerate quickly.

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Originally posted by Utsukushii
You are born gay. Many people think that's not the case but I know it's true.

Can you support that with irrefutable scientific research?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Those are the same thing. If they aren't then a woman who tongue kisses her girlfriend in 1970 and happily marries a man in 1980 is a lesbian in 2011.

HAHAHAHA

I pity anyone you have ever slept with if the depth of your "sexuality" deals with whether the person you are banging has a penis or not.

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Originally posted by The MISTER
I agree that there is nothing wrong with being whoever you happen to be. The fact remains though that being some things makes life more difficult. If you enjoy eating flesh at the morgue you are hurting nobody yet that would be more frowned upon than being a convicted murderer. Your environment has much to do with making you who you are in many non-sexual aspects, for example your favorite team, or food. Why would sexual preferences be excluded?

When you tell me that your father is a wealthy business man, I can't help but think that he might have been extremely busy, and the first child usually receives a lot of their parents attention(for good or for bad) because the total experience is new.Younger siblings have less novelty appeal, realistically. Your Dad also seems so stereotypically "manly" that child rearing may have been considered your Mom's job. Was your Dad spending a lot of time with the family or was he away a lot on business?

I ask because I see some young boys emulate their mother in homes where they interact with her most of the time rather than their father if he's in the picture at all. It's not uncommon for a comment like "child, please!" to be used by a lot of women. Wouldn't it be normal for a comment from the parent (mother or father) to become what a child is likely to repeat?

Actually you couldn't be more wrong. My dad owns his business and Always made time for my brother and I. We both worked at the shop as children. We were treated equally

Originally posted by inimalist
HAHAHAHA

I pity anyone you have ever slept with if the depth of your "sexuality" deals with whether the person you are banging has a penis or not.

😆 😆 😆 😆
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Inamalist that makes no sense.

Originally posted by The MISTER
😆 😆 😆 😆
😄

Inamalist that makes no sense.

someones sexuality includes things like their favorite positions, how they like it, fetishes, their ideas about what sex is, how it should be done, etc.

It is way bigger than just the gender of the person you want to bang

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Originally posted by The MISTER
I agree that there is nothing wrong with being whoever you happen to be. The fact remains though that being some things makes life more difficult. If you enjoy eating flesh at the morgue you are hurting nobody yet that would be more frowned upon than being a convicted murderer. Your environment has much to do with making you who you are in many non-sexual aspects, for example your favorite team, or food. Why would sexual preferences be excluded?

I ask because I see some young boys emulate their mother in homes where they interact with her most of the time rather than their father if he's in the picture at all. It's not uncommon for a comment like "child, please!" to be used by a lot of women. Wouldn't it be normal for a comment from the parent (mother or father) to become what a child is likely to repeat?

Exactly how hard do you try to be forward-thinking and ass backwards at the same time?

Originally posted by StyleTime
The MISTER, it might help if you add some evidence supporting yourself from some credible sources. Right now, you're just offering personal theories and naming connections that may not actually exist.

I don't intend to sound rude; however, I think it'd help discussion. If it stays the course, this thread will probably degenerate quickly.

You're right I am suggesting some ideas that may or may not be the case but I want to know what other peoples ideas are. I've learned that many behaviors that are considered socially taboo are instilled by parents. I believe that there has been a definite connection between sexually abusive behavior in adults stemming from them receiving sexual abuse as a child. I'm sure many molested people never molest a child but the ones that do make it seem as though some sexual behaviors can be learned. That being said I'm sure there are some people who go outside of what they are taught. Everybody is different so I'm just looking at the extreme points of view. There are those who feel you are born with a locked sexual preference that cannot be swayed, and there are those that feel that many preferences are due to parental influence, sexual included. Most of the time people are pre-decided without hearing evidence for either side. Avoiding topics like this promotes ignorance, and ignorance creates unnecessary strife. I'd like to try to get to the bottom of this.

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Originally posted by skekUng
Exactly how hard do you try to be forward-thinking [b]and ass backwards at the same time? [/B]
Welcome Skekung, to you and your highly opinionated, pointless insult posts!

Originally posted by inimalist
someones sexuality includes things like their favorite positions, how they like it, fetishes, their ideas about what sex is, how it should be done, etc.

It is way bigger than just the gender of the person you want to bang

I figured that you may be talking about each individuals specific interests, but I wondered why when the opening post elaborates. Yes sexual preferences can range from liking girls to liking frogs, I'm sure, but you know you're just being a wise ass! 😛 (said the pot to the kettle)

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IMO, homosexuality is more akin to a mental abnormality (I don't mean that in a negative way), it's something a person is born with in varying degrees and outside sources can likely influence it one way or another, though to limited lengths.

You could probably condition a homosexual male child to pursue women, but you won't be able to condition out that he still finds other boys/men sexually attractive. That's there for life and his erection will 'scientifically' prove it.

Originally posted by The MISTER
I figured that you may be talking about each individuals specific interests, but I wondered why when the opening post elaborates. Yes sexual preferences can range from liking girls to liking frogs, I'm sure, but you know you're just being a wise ass! 😛 (said the pot to the kettle)

it is a pet peeve of mine that people conflate "sexual orientation" with "sexuality"

Originally posted by inimalist
it is a pet peeve of mine that people conflate "sexual orientation" with "sexuality"

It's the same people who still think Ted Haggard is straight, cos he sleeps with his wife.