Can sexuality be influenced?

Started by Daemon Seed12 pages

Originally posted by Existere
Right.

Further, the fact that he'd have been with men sexually while possessing an ulterior attraction to women wouldn't make him bisexual or pansexual or whatever. I mean, he could be those things or anything else, it would simply come down to what he identified as, not the actions he'd taken, including sleeping with dudes.

So no, I guess I don't think that sexuality is really influenced by how a child's raised. Probably mentally makes them more or less accepting of whatever sexuality they do end up identifying with, but certainly doesn't change their identification.

Whatever floats your boat man, I like your posts so i'm cool with whatever you're into. From a distance you know sexually, but I won't judge you.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Whatever floats your boat man, I like your posts so i'm cool with whatever you're into. From a distance you know sexually, but I won't judge you.
...what?

Originally posted by Existere
...what?

I'm completely cool with you man. 🙂

Originally posted by Existere
...what?

He likes your attitude and opinions, he just doesn't want to indulge in the apparent heterosexual man-love you're into.

ie "I'm not gay, I just prefer having sex with men." Which is fine with me too, I'm not judging; to each his own, so on and so forth.

Daemon Seed, you're such a tease.

Originally posted by Robtard
He likes your attitude and opinions, he just doesn't want to indulge in the apparent heterosexual man-love you're into.

ie "I'm not gay, I just prefer having sex with men." Which is fine with me too, I'm not judging; to each his own, so on and so forth.

Huh. I'm not sure where I elaborated on my sex life.

But I'm accepted, so... sweet. I think?

Originally posted by Existere
Huh. I'm not sure where I elaborated on my sex life.

But I'm accepted, so... sweet. I think?

Fairly telling in your posts.

You are.

Originally posted by Existere
Huh. I'm not sure where I elaborated on my sex life.

But I'm accepted, so... sweet. I think?

Existere, I checked your profile and man, you've got a 'spunky' thing for short blue dudes. As I say man, whatever you're into gay dwarf sex and spunky smurfs, it's all cool with me from a distance. I watched 'Bruno'. 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Fairly telling in your posts.

You are.

Haha, no worries. I think it's a little funny that it's assumed that you have to be queer to talk queer theory (I mean, I'd love to talk computer psychology though I'm not a robot), but then again, I look around my gender studies classes and there seems to be some truth to the idea.

I remember my first tutorial for this class on sexual and gender diversity. People are put to answer why they're in the class and the first guy to answer goes "well, I'm queer." full stop. Funny world.

I found this photo of a young girl at an event that had a large amount of gay people having an easter event. I'd find it hard to believe that a child of this age can't be influenced by 1000 people celebrating a sexual orientation. At the least she is shown that the event is good clean fun (in a child's mind). Whether the event is or isn't good clean fun is not the question. The question is whether she can be influenced to look towards the same sex more than she would have.

There are more photos but they're in the canceled San Francisco thread. I have to believe that people are likely predisposed to a sexual orientation but it seems that outside influences like parents personal likes and dislikes may play a big part as well.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Existere, I checked your profile and man, you've got a 'spunky' thing for short blue dudes. As I say man, whatever you're into gay dwarf sex and spunky smurfs, it's all cool with me from a distance. I watched 'Bruno'. 🙂
Gotta love the internet.

Originally posted by Existere
Haha, no worries. I think it's a little funny that it's assumed that you have to be queer to talk queer theory (I mean, I'd love to talk computer psychology though I'm not a robot), but then again, I look around my gender studies classes and there seems to be some truth to the idea.

I remember my first tutorial for this class on sexual and gender diversity. People are put to answer why they're in the class and the first guy to answer goes "well, I'm queer." full stop. Funny world.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, no one called you "queer". No need to get defensive, bro. It's cool.

That guy kicks ass, despite being a homo.

Originally posted by Existere
Gotta love the internet.

Yes you have 🙂 and I wasn't kidding I enjoy your posts so, whatever chan spunky smurfs are on.. I'm down with you, from a distance. 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Whoa, whoa, whoa, no one called you "queer". No need to get defensive, bro. It's cool.

That guy kicks ass, despite being a homo.

I lol'd.

Nah, besides that comment, he pretty much sucks (not just penis, but as a person).

Originally posted by The MISTER
I found this photo of a young girl at an event that had a large amount of gay people having an easter event. I'd find it hard to believe that a child of this age can't be influenced by 1000 people celebrating a sexual orientation. At the least she is shown that the event is good clean fun (in a child's mind). Whether the event is or isn't good clean fun is not the question. The question is whether she can be influenced to look towards the same sex more than she would have.
So... what change are you suggesting is occurring in this girl by attending this event? Just for clarification.

I don't think we can really know as of yet. There are convincing arguments and research for both sides as well as ironically a distinct lack of evidence.

It might be better if we don't know though. Finding some sort of 'gay gene' could easily spiral into a search for a 'cure' ala X-Men 3. However, finding out its conditioned can lead to very iffy conditioning programs. We're better off not knowing imo.

Originally posted by Existere
I lol'd.

Nah, besides that comment, he pretty much sucks (not just penis, but as a person). So... what change are you suggesting is occurring in this girl by attending this event? Just for clarification.

That's the thing i'm completely tolerant of homosexuality, i just find the stereotype types of mincing poofta and dungaree wearing bull dyke; unfortunately, both true to life and very annoying.

Originally posted by The MISTER
I found this photo of a young girl at an event that had a large amount of gay people having an easter event. I'd find it hard to believe that a child of this age can't be influenced by 1000 people celebrating a sexual orientation. At the least she is shown that the event is good clean fun (in a child's mind). Whether the event is or isn't good clean fun is not the question. The question is whether she can be influenced to look towards the same sex more than she would have.

There are more photos but they're in the canceled San Francisco thread. I have to believe that people are likely predisposed to a sexual orientation but it seems that outside influences like parents personal likes and dislikes may play a big part as well.

Not likely. If anything, she won't grow up to judge people negatively because they prefer to suck a dick or eat pussy.

So what do you suggest, gay parents produce gay offspring?

Originally posted by Robtard

So what do you suggest, gay parents produce gay offspring?

Hmm it will be interesting to see if in 40 years this is the case.... Oh, that's what the threads about....!!!

Originally posted by RagingBoner
blather

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10842723

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11058483

or a critique of the biological hypothesis, that simply points to limitations in the ability to measure these things perfectly, but does not comment about the wrongness of the hypothesis:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12836730

this is from searching "homosexual twin" into pub med. feel free to continue looking up modern research there

oh, and I didn't include the most important studies on twins because they are from before 2000 and are easily findable on Google if you are interested, however, almost every abstract I linked you talks about them, and they are essentially incontrovertible

this took me 20 seconds.

Originally posted by RagingBoner
I haven't seen convincing evidence to indicate that sexual orientation is genetic.

you must have looked exhaustively

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
That's the thing i'm completely tolerant of homosexuality, i just find the stereotype types of mincing poofta and dungaree wearing bull dyke; unfortunately, both true to life and very annoying.
Yeah, me too to an extent. I try and fight that reaction in myself though, because I guess I think the key is to be more than tolerant- I mean, if you tolerate someone, it amounts to agreeing that they can exist in your perimeter.

Still, I don't think anybody can claim that they aren't put off by a certain style, mannerism or whatever, even if it should logically be harmless.