Originally posted by Peach
And a lot of people like to try and use it on here to get around the fact that the actual word is censored which - hey, guess what! Is going to get you in trouble.--
Anyway, there are a few problems that many women have with sl*t, wh*re, and other words like that. Number one, it's seen as this horribly bad thing for women to have sexual desires and sleep with people, yet it's practically congratulated in men, and women are constantly insulted for it. Yes, there is "manslut" and "manwhore", but note that they have to actually specify that they're talking about a guy there, because the default for the words is to be used against women. It's a double standard.
Second is the fact that the way a lot of people act, women simply cannot win with anything they do. If a guy asks a woman to sleep with him, and she says okay, then they're easy. If she says no, then she's either 1) a frigid b!tch, 2) a prude, or 3) easy and too busy sleeping with everyone else. Note that oftentimes these things conflict with each other.
And third is the fact that so many guys use it as if it's some sort of defense for assaulting/raping women. "She's dressed like a sl*t so obviously she wanted attention", "she sleeps with everyone so she would have agreed anyway", and so on. Look, I don't care if someone goes out in nothing but a towel - that does not give anyone else the right to touch, harass, or assault them. Period. It's not up to you to decide what sort of attention someone may want, and you are not entitled to anyone paying you any attention in return when you decide that you want to give it.
Like the picture in the article said, except in more detail - don't tell women how they should and shouldn't be dressing and shame them for making their own choices. Teach men to keep their hands to themselves, to not harass and assault women, and that they are not entitled to anything.
Right on Peach.
i don't believe the way a woman dresses no matter how provacative means she'll get raped or cause rape in the vast majority of cases. nuns and librarians get raped. rape isn't about the sex or how sexy you dressed. it's about dominance.
but to me a **** is and always will be a ****. they can never have that word "back". i don't think it was ever there's to begin with. most likely a man invented the word. (the females' natural sense of auto entitlement to any and everything just because she sits when she pees is what happened there, with "wanting the word back"😉 just like a man can be a ****. that you're castigated because of it hey, blame that on history and human nature.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
i don't believe the way a woman dresses no matter how provacative means she'll get raped or cause rape in the vast majority of cases. nuns and librarians get raped. rape isn't about the sex or how sexy you dressed. it's about dominance.but to me a **** is and always will be a ****. they can never have that word "back". i don't think it was ever there's to begin with. most likely a man invented the word. (the females' natural sense of auto entitlement to any and everything just because she sits when she pees is what happened there, with "wanting the word back"😉 just like a man can be a ****. that you're castigated because of it hey, blame that on history and human nature.
Do you feel the same about "n****r"
Originally posted by Bardock42
Do you feel the same about "n****r"
a stupid question meant to incite, but i'll humor you. the answers no. i highly doubt black people want the word back. they didn't even invent it in the first place. your race did. i could keep going on and on with the contrast in between the two but i won't. i'll just assume you can see the enormous differece in the 2 cases and can put simple math together correctly instead of trying to get a rise.
Originally posted by Mindship
In principle, I wholly agree. However, in practicality...Women obviously have the right to dress as they wish, and if a man attacks them because of it, he bears the responsibility for his choices and behavior, not her. What she is responsible for are her choices and behavior, which sometimes will manifest as poor judgment or a lack of common sense.
If a women jogs through Central Park alone at night (as is her right), she does Not deserve to be attacked. Nonetheless...
If I walk through a dangerous neighborhood, I do Not deserve to be attacked. Nonetheless...
Sexuality is power, and yes, with power comes responsibility. And exercising rights without responsibility ("I can do whatever I want, nah, nah, nah"😉, IMO, opens the door to trouble.
It's been my experience that older women are more aware of this than younger women.
Excellent post mate.