Originally posted by carver9Why was he weaker? Yeah i know that hulk weakened for a time during Planet Hulk because of the effects of the portal but i dont see how he was weakened when he held the planet together. He had much less trouble with the red king than he did when they first met. Again how was he weakened when he threw the mountain. Hulk was simmering with anger at the loss of his people and wife right before hie eyes.
I admit... Hulk starts off stronger than Savage Hulk. Too bad this isn't Savage Hulk that we are talking about. Like I have said a thousand times... a weaker hulk held planet Sakaar together without too much trouble... again, he was WEAKENED. This same Hulk while weakened tossed a mountain a couple of miles without too much trouble.A holding back Hulk had someone who is Thor physical equal saying this.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkholdingbackagainsthercules.jpg
I'm not accepting anything when I know the truth. I know each character limits, I know Thor just like I know Hulk. That is why I am saying what I am saying.
I agree hulk would have killed Hercules easily. Because Hercules was not fighting back or bracing for the attack. He knew hulk wasnt a killer so he took the punishment. Its still a feat on hulks part but not this defining feat of superiority that u seem to think it is. While i see green scar as being physically stronger than thor that does not mean he is superior or that Thor is forced to fight him like a brick. Thor can defeat/kill hulk in many ways.
Originally posted by Damborgson
I agree hulk would have killed Hercules easily. Because Hercules was not fighting back or bracing for the attack. He knew hulk wasnt a killer so he took the punishment. Its still a feat on hulks part but not this defining feat of superiority that u seem to think it is. While i see green scar as being physically stronger than thor that does not mean he is superior or that Thor is forced to fight him like a brick. Thor can defeat/kill hulk in many ways.
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Originally posted by Stoic
1. Without his hammer Thor would get the hell beaten out of him by the Hulk.2. Mjolnir has always been the reason that the Hulk didn't rip Thor apart in their past battles.
3. Even with it he has taken heavy lumps.
Mjolnir has always been the reason that Thor didn't rip Hulk apart in their past battles. Instead of getting serious with Hulk he uses his hammer to play with the Hulk. If he would use his skills and weather powers Hulk would have been dead years ago. He needs to rip into Hulk instead of testing his abilities. He needs to use them and open the Hulk open.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Why was he weaker? Yeah i know that hulk weakened for a time during Planet Hulk because of the effects of the portal but i dont see how he was weakened when he held the planet together. He had much less trouble with the red king than he did when they first met. Again how was he weakened when he threw the mountain. Hulk was simmering with anger at the loss of his people and wife right before hie eyes.I agree hulk would have killed Hercules easily. Because Hercules was not fighting back or bracing for the attack. He knew hulk wasnt a killer so he took the punishment. Its still a feat on hulks part but not this defining feat of superiority that u seem to think it is. While i see green scar as being physically stronger than thor that does not mean he is superior or that Thor is forced to fight him like a brick. Thor can defeat/kill hulk in many ways.
If anyone never told you, I am the type the like to get scans to back up my claims.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/sakaarstrength.jpg
He was weakened. The warmhole took everything out of him and then on top of that, as soon as he hit the planet during this weakened state, he was still getting drained due to the disk that was placed on him. He didn't get his true power back until he was heading to Earth. He also lost a lot of his power due to the leaches feeding on him. He wasn't at 100%, not even close. His healing factor was even giving out on his. When he lost his wife, a couple of issues after this, he regained a portion of his power. Basically, any feats that happened on Planet Hulk wasn't the true power of WWH, not even close.
As for your Herc comment... Herc knew he didn't stand a chance and Herc fought back (got in some sneak attacks when the area was smoked) but Hulk was just too much for him and Herc even showed a sign of fear when Hulk was raising off the ground after a sucker punch from Herc.
What we do know is that Herc=Thor physically. Herc was getting his face taken off by a holding back Hulk. The same would happen to Thor if he decides to go melee. He could win but he would need to keep his distance...FAR distance since Hulk has shown straight line blitzing capabilities recently and during WWH.
Originally posted by carver9Good for u. 🙂
If anyone never told you, I am the type the like to get scans to back up my claims.http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/sakaarstrength.jpg
He was weakened. The warmhole took everything out of him and then on top of that, as soon as he hit the planet during this weakened state, he was still getting drained due to the disk that was placed on him. He didn't get his true power back until he was heading to Earth. He also lost a lot of his power due to the leaches feeding on him. He wasn't at 100%, not even close. His healing factor was even giving out on his. When he lost his wife, a couple of issues after this, he regained a portion of his power. Basically, any feats that happened on Planet Hulk wasn't the true power of WWH, not even close.
As for your Herc comment... Herc knew he didn't stand a chance and Herc fought back (got in some sneak attacks when the area was smoked) but Hulk was just too much for him and Herc even showed a sign of fear when Hulk was raising off the ground after a sucker punch from Herc.
What we do know is that Herc=Thor physically. Herc was getting his face taken off by a holding back Hulk. The same would happen to Thor if he decides to go melee. He could win but he would need to keep his distance...FAR distance since Hulk has shown straight line blitzing capabilities recently and during WWH.
Oh yeah the spikes did drain a lot from him didnt they? Still though the portals effects had passed. The disks were no longer on him. Is it not safe to assume that he was no longer weakened? Hulk has incredible recovery abilities and the tectonic plates feat was before the spikes no? Im not saying he was WWH levels because he obviously wasnt but its not like he was a wuss compared to him either. Id put him at least> savage hulk.
Herc was letting those shots land. I already said this http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/Titan_Darkseid/World%20War%20Hulk/IncredibleHulk107-024.jpg He wasnt even trying.yeah he got a shot in but once hulk was on the ground he stopped and said "no more hulk" then hulk clobbered him to make his ego feel better. 🙂 Yeah Herc probably was afraid. He was about to get punched by the freaking hulk. I see no problem here. If WWH nailed Thor like that in a fight, the effects would not be the same as Thor would be fighting. Yeah Thor most likely wont win fighting like a brick, but he doesnt have 2. Hulk does. Thor >>> hulk
Originally posted by Hyperion Primeyeah its because when Thor came back and fixed the time stream he gave knowledge of all that had happened to his old self. I disagree withit being non canon....
Probablly because it took place in a future that was removed once thor came back and warned himself. The weird thing is Thor remembered his son that no longer existed.
Originally posted by BadabingI can see a what if not being canon since it is an alternate dimension. But this happened in 616 correct? Thor remembers what happened in that time stream that he erased. I dont see why it shouldnt be canon.
All those characters are currently alive in the 616. Alternate realities/universes, most future arcs and what ifs are not canon.
Originally posted by DamborgsonIt's still not canon for anyone else. That's if Thor remembers it. That isn't current Thor. It's not canon and not proof of anything current Thor can do or not do.
I can see a what if not being canon since it is an alternate dimension. But this happened in 616 correct? Thor remembers what happened in that time stream that he erased. I dont see why it shouldnt be canon.
