Should feats only be a maximum of five years old

Bear with me, re Canonicity etc. Can we even say Iron MAn is the same character as in the 70's or 80's for instance. The origin is rewritten several times for different wars. Shouldn't the feats for the Iron Man of a different origin automatically be excluded? Same for Superman and all characters really.

if you want to get into something like this, you would be better off breaking it down by author rather than era

Originally posted by inimalist
if you want to get into something like this, you would be better off breaking it down by author rather than era

I sort of agree, but author might be to far. I mean how can transistor Iron man etc be taken seriously as canon now.

I get your point, but using consistency works in that situation as well

Iron Man is hardly portrayed as transistor Iron man more often than not

I think its unnecessary, and really, many characters have stayed at pretty consistent levels over the years. Spidey, Hulk, Batman just off the top of my head

Originally posted by inimalist
I get your point, but using consistency works in that situation as well

Iron Man is hardly portrayed as transistor Iron man more often than not

I think its unnecessary, and really, many characters have stayed at pretty consistent levels over the years. Spidey, Hulk, Batman just off the top of my head

Thing is Iron Man's best feats are from the 70's and 80's, it's the same with loads of characters.

Some characters have become weaker and some have become stronger due to different wirters along with train of thought with modern writers. I'm pretty sure you will not find a writer these days that believe Hulk could thunder clap a dimension to dust or a writer that would have Thor pulling a big a** snake with a pole.

Its even hard to find planetary level beings these days.

When was the last time a being shedded a Galaxy? Power levels change and I don't even think it should be 5 yrs, it should be within 2 to 3 years.

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Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Bear with me, re Canonicity etc. Can we even say Iron MAn is the same character as in the 70's or 80's for instance. The origin is rewritten several times for different wars. Shouldn't the feats for the Iron Man of a different origin automatically be excluded? Same for Superman and all characters really.

It depends. Sometimes characters don't change a lot through a long history, some do, and it's not rare that early events are still explicitly indicated to take place, if not particularly the same way (Something Lady Shiva has suffered from. She's gotten a lot of minor retcons, but still has in canon beaten the same people she did before those retcons).

5 years is *way* too short a cutoff though. Very few characters have had big shifts during that time other than the explicit on-page ones (like Tony getting a new suit of armor).

Should threads older than 3 years be considered? Like if you get your argument destroyed and humiliated should we stop calling you on it after the 3 year mark?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Should threads older than 3 years be considered? Like if you get your argument destroyed and humiliated should we stop calling you on it after the 3 year mark?

How do you debate characters that don't have many appearances and their last appearance was before five years ago?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
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Originally posted by carver9
Some characters have become weaker and some have become stronger due to different wirters along with train of thought with modern writers. I'm pretty sure you will not find a writer these days that believe Hulk could thunder clap a dimension to dust or a writer that would have Thor pulling a big a** snake with a pole.

Its even hard to find planetary level beings these days.

When was the last time a being shedded a Galaxy? Power levels change and I don't even think it should be 5 yrs, it should be within 2 to 3 years.

True enough, take Wolverine, the Wolverine of today is completly different to when he appeared!

Originally posted by Q99
It depends. Sometimes characters don't change a lot through a long history, some do, and it's not rare that early events are still explicitly indicated to take place, if not particularly the same way (Something Lady Shiva has suffered from. She's gotten a lot of minor retcons, but still has in canon beaten the same people she did before those retcons).

5 years is *way* too short a cutoff though. Very few characters have had big shifts during that time other than the explicit on-page ones (like Tony getting a new suit of armor).

Originally posted by vince_slice
How do you debate characters that don't have many appearances and their last appearance was before five years ago?

With difficulty anyway because they have so few feats.

Originally posted by Juntai
Agreed. I dunno about 5, but I typically laugh when someone pulls out feats that are as old as I am or even older. Hulk is a particular one to me in this regard, shit he did in the 70's and early 80's, he's not even come close to replicating in 30 years since. Same for a lot of characters. They call that the Silver Age and not the Modern Age for a reason, because it's an age gone by.

to be fair though, this is covered by consistency of appearances just as well as any cut off point would

Originally posted by inimalist
to be fair though, this is covered by consistency of appearances just as well as any cut off point would

Not really as they are often consistant within a period.

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Why?

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I won't finish, but I will say that in these days I learned a valuable lesson...

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