Wolverine VS Spider-Man (Boxing Match)

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Lol no.

That's exactly why we know he was holding back.

He doesn't know who Parker is. He would naturally think of him as a normal human. And thus he would not use his full strength. You do see how he was NOT surprised to see that Parker got away right? AFTER the punch he laid on him? He's not going to expect a normal human to still be anything but powder if he actually gave it near a fraction of his best.

In such a case, it's actually a kind of a low showing on Peter's durability. He got his nose bloodied by a punch that Herc didn't even intend to outright kill a normal human with. 😛

As for Herc simply talking himself up. You CANNOT be serious.

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Wrong he was never holding back. That would have killed a normal human!!! If he was holding back he would not have hit someone who may have been normal Human and knocked them through all of that shit.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Holding back or not, a normal human would have been killed by the first punch, Herc punched Parkers ass through a window and 2 doors that's a pretty long distance.

Exactly!!!!!

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Umm....Herc doesn't really work that way. His "holding back" is not the same as other heroes holding back. While holding back he's put people through walls (literally impaling them in walls), fought WWH, etc. When he's really holding back, he uses a love tap, or a gentle slap, like he did to black widow to KO her (who was concerned if he hits her a little too hard he might take her face off).

Besides, he did put him through 2 very thick walls with one of those "holding back" punches, and in the end only beat him by tossing 10+ cars on top of him and trapping him underneath.

Either way, I'm not arguing one way or another, but you're trying to take away from Spiderman's durability shown in those scans and it's not right, because Herc's argument that he's "holding back" ain't exactly lowering the feat. 🙂

Going to finish with the most awesome scan in existence:

Correct

Originally posted by long pig
For his class, it's mediocre. He certainly can dish out more than he can take.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

I can't get him to stop smiling.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Spider-man fans, you jelly?

Originally posted by Mindset
Cool, Hammerhead's bones > Wolverine's.

Does Hammer Head have an adamantium plate in his head????

Whatever he has it's much much stronger than Wolverine's bones.

One hit broke Spiderman's hand, but a barrage of hits on Wolverine didn't.

Originally posted by Ize19
Lol, yeah, right. Sorry, but this has been done several times before, and the spidey fans have consistently been unable to prove that Spiderman operates on a different level of speed than Wolverine.

What do you mean we're not using the no SS version? The thread started specified "current powers" for a reason. And no one thinks we're using it? Then how do you explain this?

Anyways, with the SS, his chances go up, obviously. But, if we're giving him the SS, then I assume we're taking away the recent training he's received, which just makes the skill gap between him and Wolvie even bigger, which means that Wolverine keeps his edge on Spidey, imo.

Bump that thread C Master.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Haha, you mean like Secret Wars? I made a thread on this speed issue and nobody has proven Wolverine on being the same level of speed. Only about 3 people argue that for crying out loud.

you have never proven once that spiderman operates on another level of speed.

and when did appealing to the masses make you right?

Originally posted by Mindset
Whatever he has it's much much stronger than Wolverine's bones.

One hit broke Spiderman's hand, but a barrage of hits on Wolverine didn't.

I broken my hand on person face with a sinlge punch, but also punch some one over 10 times with out any such damage. It not the object durability alone, it how and were you hit the person.

Strangely enough, I agree with Dum Dum. You could see a boxer dominate a match with haymakers, body blows, uppercuts, jabs...and never get hurt. But then in another match he could break his hand with one punch to the face.

Dum Dum knows what he's talking about from time to time.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
that means almost nothing. It could be the way spiderman punched, not the durability of hammer compared to wolverine. You jumping to some conclusion based on very little.

I broken my hand on person face with a sinlge punch, but also punch some one over 10 times with out any such damage. It not the object durability alone, it how and were you hit the person.

Originally posted by KingD19
Strangely enough, I agree with Dum Dum. You could see a boxer dominate a match with haymakers, body blows, uppercuts, jabs...and never get hurt. But then in another match he could break his hand with one punch to the face.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~

Where's that from?

Originally posted by long pig
Bump that thread C Master.

Here it is though.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=443877

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
what about secret wars?

you have never proven once that spiderman operates on another level of speed.

and when did appealing to the masses make you right?

People are going to believe what they want anyways. By stats, bios, and feats, it favors him.

It's pretty much common knowledge he's faster anyways.

IMO people are making too much of a big deal out of Parker not having Spider sense anymore. Not the first time he lost it. And although he needed some time to get used to not having it, he was already shown easily dodging bullets at close range and even a bomb that went off right next to him and while carrying someone. All that before the MA training. Now im not getting in the whole "he's an awesome MA fighter right now" as we havent seen much from him yet and since I feel its gonna be forgotten in like 2 months anyway. But this particular scenario takes away from Wolverine much more than it does from Spider-man, so I say Parker for a majority.

PS: The adamantium hammerhead fight - not the best example. He's got Luke Cage level strength easily. Not to mention in the next issue where Spider-man was no longer caught off guard by the upgrade he oneshotted him.

I just read the rules of the thread....wtf? This is retarded.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Does Hammer Head have an adamantium plate in his head????

As far as I know, he's always had.

Now he has entire skeleton made out of adamantium.

Originally posted by SamZED
PS: The adamantium hammerhead fight - not the best example. He's got Luke Cage level strength easily. Not to mention in the next issue where Spider-man was no longer caught off guard by the upgrade he oneshotted him.

Different environment, webbing... and only the upper body skeleton is adamantium I just read (haven't really noticed before, it all makes sense now).

Anyway, Hammerhead doesn't need any upgrades in order to take down this dirty rat, as seen in TAS biscuits

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Different environment, webbing... and only the upper body skeleton is adamantium I just read (haven't really noticed before, it all makes sense now).

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Anyway, Hammerhead doesn't need any upgrades in order to take down this dirty rat, as seen in TAS biscuits

But seriously, people are looking too much into this. His adamantium is no different than Logan's. The writer simply wanted to show that HH is tougher now than he used to be, dont think the writer cared that it's not the first time SM punches adamantium.

Originally posted by SamZED
Only upperbody? Was under the impression his whole skeleton is now adamantium, he's basically a cyborg. Wasnt he shown throwing cars in the recent FF books? Where did you get the info?

Wikipedia. When I read the article, I remembered this panel:

http://www.comicvine.com/hammerhead/29-6817/all-images/108-203719/hammerhead031/105-1138086/

That explains why Spidey was able to dislocate his hip.

Originally posted by SamZED
You make your judgment going by cartoons? That explain a lot.biscuits

But seriously, people are looking too much into this. His adamantium is no different than Logan's. The writer simply wanted to show that HH is tougher now than he used to be, dont think the writer cared that it's not the first time SM punches adamantium.

Oh, it is different... Wolverine has adamantium beta 😛 But yeah, it's indestructible all the same.

Mindset wasn't serious anyway.