If Thanos is a 100 in strength...

Originally posted by carver9
WWHulk was stated a thousand times as being more powerful than Savage. You would like proof huh? Don't mind providing it. Rulk fought Savage, the first fight, Savage Hulk got punched to sleep. Rulk and Savage meet again (woke up from his coma)... him and Rulk fight, Rulk breaks his arm and then proceed at choking him to sleep. They fight again, A-Bomb save his life. They fight yet again, Rulk is thrashing Savage... Savage is a punching bag, Thor saves him, beats on Rulk a bit and then Savage joins the fight yet again to become a punching bag... Rulk overheats... the end. The outcome of Savage and Rulk is Rulk being the superior.

Rulk meets WWH... his punches does crap against WWH. Rulk gets pissed since he is nothing but an insect and decides to absorb WWH gamma energy... he absorbs so much that he punch WWHulk with enough force that it creates a nuclear explosion. WWH walks out of this explosion like he didn't even feel the punch and thunder clap Rulk to sleep. The outcome... WWH was far superior to Rulk... the same Rulk that Savage Hulk fought except Rulk put his all at stopping WWH and failed whereas he toyed with Savage.

Ironman had to get his most powerful suit to face WWH and failed and the sad thing is... WWH was holding back. WWH held back against Herc as well and Herc even admitted that Hulk could have killed him. Let's not even include the fact that shield compared files between Savage and WWH and stated that WWH power was off the charts and was at a level that was never seen before. I would go as far as to say that Planet Hulk was stronger than Savage and that was a weaker version of WWH.

The planet prepped against him and still lost. True power buddy.

Ah yes, Rulk. When people say Loeb-force, what do you imagine they are referring to?

Again, WWH doesn't have any feats that are even remotely comparable to savage hulk's high-end feats, and to take the on-panel statement as gospel won't get you far. By that logic, Mangog's most recent showing would be able to take down his silver-age self.

I don't even know why I am arguing this with the man who thought the Zeus fight had nothing to do with strength.

And please, stop ending your posts with some ejaculation about Hulk's "true power."

Originally posted by Simbon
Ah yes, Rulk. When people say Loeb-force, what do you imagine they are referring to?

Again, WWH doesn't have any feats that are even remotely comparable to savage hulk's high-end feats, and to take the on-panel statement as gospel won't get you far. By that logic, Mangog's most recent showing would be able to take down his silver-age self.

I don't even know why I am arguing this with the man who thought the Zeus fight had nothing to do with strength.

And please, stop ending your posts with some ejaculation about Hulk's "true power."

Uuummm... Rulk only true lost was when he fought WWH.

Originally posted by carver9
Uuummm...

Fixed.

if hulk is 100 where would zeus be?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if hulk is 100 where would zeus be?

300 😄

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk toyed around with GR and it was stated later on that all of Hulk fights, he held back his power.

Are you referring to the same Herc that admitted that Hulk held back against him and could have killed him with a couple of punches? Yeah, that helped your argument lol.

WWH would crush Gladiator as well and Glads and Tyrant never went physical. Wwh doesn't have to beat that group to prove that he can hang with Tyrant on a physical level.

Wolverne fought a Rulk that didn't have his absorption abilities (which is the time Rulk had all of those bad showings because he was tricked in thinking he didn't have his powers). WWH fought and defeated the Rulk that stomped and ran through people like candy. By the way... Rulk defeated SAVAGE Hulk, not WWH. When he faced WWH, he got treated like a step child and again, this was the same Rulk than one shotted a Watcher, killed a skyfather/abstract, killed Surfer, etc, etc...

Wit all that power Zom had, he failed at stopping Hulk and got pummeled to death at the end.

Onslaught physical body was defeated because he wasn't on Hulks level "physically". All of Earth was insects to Onslaught until Hulk showed up, a weaker Hulk than WWH.

Lol... so you are using a prep battle where they took Hulk down to his Grey Hulk persona (prep) in order to snap his neck? Good debating Quan...lol.

Sentry never displayed that type of power after fighting Hulk and during the beginning... Hulk "allowed" Sentry to unleash on him without fighting back. Hulk was never serious until the end buddy.

Hulk stomps.

I hope you are writing all of this down... this is free skill that I am providing Quan... take notes.

Hulk being able to kill Herc when he stands there and allows him to attack him isn't the same thing as fighting back. WW can kill Superman as well if he just stands there. Good one. LOL.

Tyrant went physical against Thanos who has went physical with both Hulk and the Thing. Saying WW Hulk crushes Gladiator isn't he same thing as you know proving it. Name one elite top tier Hulk has crushed on panel. Please by all means.

Rulk beat the snot out of Hulk how many times, flat out absorbed him, killed him, etc. LOL. the first time hulk won was when Rulk was weakening and after Thor softened him up. Yeah great logic there. Hulk also beat him he didn't stomp him. You seem to be unable to comprehend the pictures or any number of fight scenes.

That Rulk was never sen from again past issue 6 and hulk only beat him because of Thor.

Wha power did Zom have because I seem to not be as impressed because there's nothing really impressive about a I will punch you to death Strange/Zom character, he fiought Hulk;s fight and lost. Big whoop.

Hulk can't go to those levels here and unlike Onslaught he was ko'd. LOL. Onslaught also took on Hulk and friends prior to and after. WW Hulk took down the ff. Whoa buddy.

You said he snaps Tyrant's neck when your green champion was snapped by some gamma buddies. This actually mocks your own argument because what you're claiming Hulk does to Tyrant far less has down to WW Hulk. Your debating doesn't even make sense it's just a lot of silly claims by a silly guy.

Pak's version of Sentry is very weak compared to Bendis' and jenkins' version so who cares. When the Hulk got serious he lost his powers because one of the weakest sentry's out there tapped him out fighting the Hulk's fight. How utterly unimpressive.

Hulk didn't stomp pak's sentry, juggernaut, strange's zom, grider, etc.

Who did WW Hulk stomp ?

You are embarrassing yourself here. Why should I take notes this is nothing new.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if hulk is 100 where would zeus be?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk didn't toy with anyone he might not have tried to kill Grider but the same can be said of Hulk.

Hulk being able to kill Herc when he stands there and allows him to attack him isn't the same thing as fighting back. WW can kill Superman as well if he just stands there. Good one. LOL.

Tyrant went physical against Thanos who has went physical with both Hulk and the Thing. Saying WW Hulk crushes Gladiator isn't he same thing as you know proving it. Name one elite top tier Hulk has crushed on panel. Please by all means.

Rulk beat the snot out of Hulk how many times, flat out absorbed him, killed him, etc. LOL. the first time hulk won was when Rulk was weakening and after Thor softened him up. Yeah great logic there. Hulk also beat him he didn't stomp him. You seem to be unable to comprehend the pictures or any number of fight scenes.

That Rulk was never sen from again past issue 6 and hulk only beat him because of Thor.

Wha power did Zom have because I seem to not be as impressed because there's nothing really impressive about a I will punch you to death Strange/Zom character, he fiought Hulk;s fight and lost. Big whoop.

Hulk can't go to those levels here and unlike Onslaught he was ko'd. LOL. Onslaught also took on Hulk and friends prior to and after. WW Hulk took down the ff. Whoa buddy.

You said he snaps Tyrant's neck when your green champion was snapped by some gamma buddies. This actually mocks your own argument because what you're claiming Hulk does to Tyrant far less has down to WW Hulk. Your debating doesn't even make sense it's just a lot of silly claims by a silly guy.

Pak's version of Sentry is very weak compared to Bendis' and jenkins' version so who cares. When the Hulk got serious he lost his powers because one of the weakest sentry's out there tapped him out fighting the Hulk's fight. How utterly unimpressive.

Hulk didn't stomp pak's sentry, juggernaut, strange's zom, grider, etc.

Who did WW Hulk stomp ?

You are embarrassing yourself here. Why should I take notes this is nothing new.

It was stated on panel that Hulk wasn't using his true power during WWH. That could be the reason he didn't throw a single punch during his fight against GR huh? Also against Ironman it was mentioned that he held back. It was mentioned against Herc as well. Hulk even admitted it during his fight against Sentry and let the guy pound on him.

Where are you getting "that" was the weakest Sentry when Sentry himself admitted that he was unleashing everything on the Hulk? Sentry never cut lose like that or unleashed that much power until he met Hulk.

Get your facts straight, he beat the hell out of Savage Hulk... that's not who I am arguing about... we are talking about WWH and WWHA stomped Rulk... the same Rulk that was crushing top tiers. Stop changing the subject. Savage Hulk and WWH are 2 different people. That's like me bringing up grey Hulk loses as an argument for Savage or War Hulk. Do you not understand this? Thor assisted SAVAGE HULK against Rulk. Did you even read the comic.

Strange had Zom powers and got TKOed by Hulk. The first punch was the key to an a** wipin. Hulk had no challenges...even while holding back.

WWH>Onslaught Hulk. He doesn't need to go to those levels.

You bringing up a weak Hulk getting his neck snapped is lowballing and off topic.

A serious WWH would physically take out Tyrant. Not for a majority but he can pull some.

Originally posted by carver9
It was stated on panel that Hulk wasn't using his true power during WWH. That could be the reason he didn't throw a single punch during his fight against GR huh? Also against Ironman it was mentioned that he held back. It was mentioned against Herc as well. Hulk even admitted it during his fight against Sentry and let the guy pound on him.

Where are you getting "that" was the weakest Sentry when Sentry himself admitted that he was unleashing everything on the Hulk? Sentry never cut lose like that or unleashed that much power until he met Hulk.

Get your facts straight, he beat the hell out of Savage Hulk... that's not who I am arguing about... we are talking about WWH and WWHA stomped Rulk... the same Rulk that was crushing top tiers. Stop changing the subject. Savage Hulk and WWH are 2 different people. That's like me bringing up grey Hulk loses as an argument for Savage or War Hulk. Do you not understand this? Thor assisted SAVAGE HULK against Rulk. Did you even read the comic.

Strange had Zom powers and got TKOed by Hulk. The first punch was the key to an a** wipin. Hulk had no challenges...even while holding back.

WWH>Onslaught Hulk. He doesn't need to go to those levels.

You bringing up a weak Hulk getting his neck snapped is lowballing and off topic.

A serious WWH would physically take out Tyrant. Not for a majority but he can pull some.

Pak's version of the sentry is weak compared to other writer's versions mainly kenkins or bendis. I don't care if according to pak he went all out because according to other writers he's much more powerful than pak's sentry.

Rulk didn't crush wolverine and also got beat down by Thor. After issue 6 rulk went way down on the power scale so anything past this isn't anywhere near as impressive since his power levels seemed to drastically change.

Oh so I can't bring up other hulks yet you can bring up onslaught hulk. You're a hypocrite who isn't even that bright as you are guilty of the same thing in ninety percent of your posts.

Thor almost killed him then Hulk jumped back in because on his own he couldn't do it.

Hulk was challenged because he was missing parts of his body and only did he take advantage after strange felt bad. LOL.

Hulk was burned out by pak's sentry, didn't outmuscle juggs, herc let him win, and he didn't harm grider who didn't try to even hurt him.

You haven't proven ww hulk is greater than onslaught hulk and so what ww hulk burns himself out on pak's sentry who's far weaker than Tyrant.

You brought up snapping necks and you don't even know what low balling is you've been accused of it so often you accuse others of it. You brought up snapping necks so I brought up the fact it happened to ww hulk in his own story by far weaker characters than Tyrant. Laughing at cha.

No, WW Hulk burns out while Tyrant is toying with him. tyrant breaks him in a panel or two tops. WW Hulk isn't anywhere near this level the guy putters out against a crazed sentry who fought hulk's fight. Geez even hulk's own melee combat he can't pull a legt win against pak's weaker sentry.

I'm barely getting warmed up you better not quit this debate like you always do either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk pounded on the Sentry and they were both letting the other just full out blast each other. He attacked G rider and G rider wasn't at his best since he was an innocent. Oh holding back against iron man pretty compelling stuff and herc didn't try to win so anything there is irrelevant. Also hulk burned himself out as explained by the writer so he was going all out.

Pak's version of the sentry is weak compared to other writer's versions mainly kenkins or bendis. I don't care if according to pak he went all out because according to other writers he's much more powerful than pak's sentry.

Rulk didn't crush wolverine and also got beat down by Thor. After issue 6 rulk went way down on the power scale so anything past this isn't anywhere near as impressive since his power levels seemed to drastically change.

Oh so I can't bring up other hulks yet you can bring up onslaught hulk. You're a hypocrite who isn't even that bright as you are guilty of the same thing in ninety percent of your posts.

Thor almost killed him then Hulk jumped back in because on his own he couldn't do it.

Hulk was challenged because he was missing parts of his body and only did he take advantage after strange felt bad. LOL.

Hulk was burned out by pak's sentry, didn't outmuscle juggs, herc let him win, and he didn't harm grider who didn't try to even hurt him.

You haven't proven ww hulk is greater than onslaught hulk and so what ww hulk burns himself out on pak's sentry who's far weaker than Tyrant.

You brought up snapping necks and you don't even know what low balling is you've been accused of it so often you accuse others of it. You brought up snapping necks so I brought up the fact it happened to ww hulk in his own story by far weaker characters than Tyrant. Laughing at cha.

No, WW Hulk burns out while Tyrant is toying with him. tyrant breaks him in a panel or two tops. WW Hulk isn't anywhere near this level the guy putters out against a crazed sentry who fought hulk's fight. Geez even hulk's own melee combat he can't pull a legt win against pak's weaker sentry.

I'm barely getting warmed up you better not quit this debate like you always do either.

HAHAHAHAHA... GR gave him a fight huh? Just like I thought... you don't even read comics you bring up. GR got KOED from a Hulk that wasn't even taking him serious. Hulk had GR in his grasp numerous of times and could have beat him senseless. The only time he was recognized by Hulk was when he transformed and even then Hulk appeared as if he brushed him off and tanked his hellfire also.

Maybe you need to relook at the fight. I'm always here to provide knowledge to the needie.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...(gave him a fight... step ya game up Quan).

I will respond to the rest tomorrow.

Holla.

Originally posted by carver9
It was stated on panel that Hulk wasn't using his true power during WWH. That could be the reason he didn't throw a single punch during his fight against GR huh? Also against Ironman it was mentioned that he held back. It was mentioned against Herc as well. Hulk even admitted it during his fight against Sentry and let the guy pound on him.

Where are you getting "that" was the weakest Sentry when Sentry himself admitted that he was unleashing everything on the Hulk? Sentry never cut lose like that or unleashed that much power until he met Hulk.

Get your facts straight, he beat the hell out of Savage Hulk... that's not who I am arguing about... we are talking about WWH and WWHA stomped Rulk... the same Rulk that was crushing top tiers. Stop changing the subject. Savage Hulk and WWH are 2 different people. That's like me bringing up grey Hulk loses as an argument for Savage or War Hulk. Do you not understand this? Thor assisted SAVAGE HULK against Rulk. Did you even read the comic.

Strange had Zom powers and got TKOed by Hulk. The first punch was the key to an a** wipin. Hulk had no challenges...even while holding back.

WWH>Onslaught Hulk. He doesn't need to go to those levels.

You bringing up a weak Hulk getting his neck snapped is lowballing and off topic.

A serious WWH would physically take out Tyrant. Not for a majority but he can pull some.

The Hulk that got his neck snapped was WWH!!!!! I have the book. Stop making shit up.

Originally posted by carver9
HAHAHAHAHA... GR gave him a fight huh? Just like I thought... you don't even read comics you bring up. GR got KOED from a Hulk that wasn't even taking him serious. Hulk had GR in his grasp numerous of times and could have beat him senseless. The only time he was recognized by Hulk was when he transformed and even then Hulk appeared as if he brushed him off and tanked his hellfire also.

Maybe you need to relook at the fight. I'm always here to provide knowledge to the needie.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...(gave him a fight... step ya game up Quan).

I will respond to the rest tomorrow.

Holla.

Your last scan says the Grdier ONLY AVENGES THE INNOCENT. You proved my point for me and aren't smart enough to even know it.

You won't respond to the rest of my post either and another I will get to it later response.

Your scans back me up so thanks for going to all the trouble for proving me right with the scans. Poor thing.

Originally posted by carver9
HAHAHAHAHA... GR gave him a fight huh? Just like I thought... you don't even read comics you bring up. GR got KOED from a Hulk that wasn't even taking him serious. Hulk had GR in his grasp numerous of times and could have beat him senseless. The only time he was recognized by Hulk was when he transformed and even then Hulk appeared as if he brushed him off and tanked his hellfire also.

Maybe you need to relook at the fight. I'm always here to provide knowledge to the needie.

Enjoy.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...(gave him a fight... step ya game up Quan).

I will respond to the rest tomorrow.

Holla.

I would just like to point out that your wrong about this fight the rider had no interest in going to New York and facing the Hulk he was on a mission it was blaze who forcibly took control and came.

Blaze was suppressing the rider for the whole fight in the same scans you posted you can clearly see the rider telling blaze their is so much more power he could access if he would let him out.This was fight between Hulk and a restrained Ghost Rider.

Listen to Strange I see that it's blaze and not the rider who choose to engage in this battle he goes on to describe the difference in power.

Screaming in pain is not brushing off anything.

1.The rider that Hulk face was blaze in control suppressing the rider it was made clear by Strange who was in control and the vast difference in power it meant.

2.It's anyone's guess how this battle would have gone of the transformed rider had decided to fight the Hulk.

1. Thor 105
2. Glads 110
3. Surfer 75
4. Captain Marvel 112
5. Mangog 116
6. Darkseid 114
7. Supes 113
8. Black Adam 112
9. Orion 110
10. Dp Tyrant don't know about this charecter
11. Current Hulk 115

I'm suprised how low people rate Surfer's strength level considering he just recently physically beat down Bill with a few punches and beat down Skaar with three punches. Skaar at the time was amped by the old power and was powerful enough to destroy a planet (which he did).

When Surfer got serious he rocked Skaar hard with three punches, regenerated and healed the entire planet, and sealed Skaar's amp away.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I would just like to point out that your wrong about this fight the rider had no interest in going to New York and facing the Hulk he was on a mission it was blaze who forcibly took control and came.

Blaze was suppressing the rider for the whole fight in the same scans you posted you can clearly see the rider telling blaze their is so much more power he could access if he would let him out.This was fight between Hulk and a restrained Ghost Rider.

Listen to Strange I see that it's blaze and not the rider who choose to engage in this battle he goes on to describe the difference in power.

Screaming in pain is not brushing off anything.

1.The rider that Hulk face was blaze in control suppressing the rider it was made clear by Strange who was in control and the vast difference in power it meant.

2.It's anyone's guess how this battle would have gone of the transformed rider had decided to fight the Hulk.

You're good Superior tech...good with backing up claims... I like that. The point of my post was Quan stated that Hulk couldn't take GR down in their fight but how the fight went, it was a stomp in Hulks favor, even though Blaze had control (blaze has good showings with his power as well).

Everything you posted, I knew about... just wanted to show Quan his errors.

Originally posted by vince_slice
I'm suprised how low people rate Surfer's strength level considering he just recently physically beat down Bill with a few punches and beat down Skaar with three punches. Skaar at the time was amped by the old power and was powerful enough to destroy a planet (which he did).

When Surfer got serious he rocked Skaar hard with three punches, regenerated and healed the entire planet, and sealed Skaar's amp away.

He snuck attacked Bill in the back of the head with his board. Before the board hit Surfer was physically being dominated by Bill. An indestructible board hitting you in the back of the head at light can take a lot out of you... no matter how durable you are.

not to be mean, but it seems like you don't know about many characters on the list.

Interesting thread; very good one actually... 👆

I gotta think this over; even though Thanos doesnt have some of the strength feats under his belt that some of these characters do, I believe he is portrayed as being stronger than them...

How much stronger? I gotta think about this for a while...

I'm not yet ready to place numbers, but "average everyday" Thanos should be stronger than "average everyday" everyone else on this list except Tyrant...

Thanos should be stronger than a non-enraged Hulk, but Hulk should eventually overtake him once enraged sufficiently...