Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I'm not yet ready to place numbers, but "average everyday" Thanos should be stronger than "average everyday" everyone else on this list except Tyrant...Thanos should be stronger than a non-enraged Hulk, but Hulk should eventually overtake him once enraged sufficiently...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he's always been portrayed as stronger than anyone on that level every time he's faced off against any of them.
He never overpowered the people that matter though.
He never overpowered Thor, he never overpowered Drax, he never overpowered Gladiator, he never overpowered WWH, he never overpowered BRB, he never overpowered Sentry, he never overpowered Hercules, he never overpowered Juggernaut, etc. I can go on.
The ones he did seem to overpower are weakies. Even Namor once overpowered a stronger version of the Hulk than what Thanos did. Hell it was shown that Thor himself was physically restraining Thanos against his own will. And what top tier can't overpower Thing? He should be an insect to most top tiers.
Here is my vote:
1. Thor=90 (95+ when serious)
2. Glads=95 (105+ at high confidence)
3. Surfer=80 (95+ when amped highly)
4. Marvel=95
5. Mangog=115 (silver age)
6. Darkseid=105
7. Supes=105 (110+ when unleashed)
8. Black Adam=95
9. Orion=95
10. Dp Tyrant=105
11. Current Hulk=95 (120+ in upper limits)
Originally posted by h1a8He has taken on a much more powerful team wrecking power gem wielding Thor. Herc is equal to Thor in strength so that's covered and so is Gladiator. Hulk was overpowered along with the Thing easily. Surfer was flat out beaten to a pulp. All of these guys are in the same strength class with some being slightly stronger than the other one.
He never overpowered the people that matter though.
He never overpowered Thor, he never overpowered Drax, he never overpowered Gladiator, he never overpowered WWH, he never overpowered BRB, he never overpowered Sentry, he never overpowered Hercules, he never overpowered Juggernaut, etc. I can go on.The ones he did seem to overpower are weakies. Even Namor once overpowered a stronger version of the Hulk than what Thanos did. Hell it was shown that Thor himself was physically restraining Thanos against his own will. And what top tier can't overpower Thing? He should be an insect to most top tiers.
Here is my vote:
1. Thor=90 (95+ when serious)
2. Glads=95 (105+ at high confidence)
3. Surfer=80 (95+ when amped highly)
4. Marvel=95
5. Mangog=115 (silver age)
6. Darkseid=105
7. Supes=105 (110+ when unleashed)
8. Black Adam=95
9. Orion=95
10. Dp Tyrant=105
11. Current Hulk=95 (120+ in upper limits)
Easily overpowering both the Thing and Hulk is pretty high end. Hulk is strong or haven't you heard ? I think it's in the respect thread not to sure. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
He has taken on a much more powerful team wrecking power gem wielding Thor. Herc is equal to Thor in strength so that's covered and so is Gladiator. Hulk was overpowered along with the Thing easily. Surfer was flat out beaten to a pulp. All of these guys are in the same strength class with some being slightly stronger than the other one.Easily overpowering both the Thing and Hulk is pretty high end. Hulk is strong or haven't you heard ? I think it's in the respect thread not to sure. 🙂
He didn't overpower the power gem Thor. Thus he didn't overpower anyone that matters. Thing is not strong when compared to these guys. It is like overpowering someone combined with an insect. Namor overpowered a stronger version of Hulk than Thanos did. I guess he is stronger than Thanos. 🙄
Overpowering Surfer doesn't mean anything since Surfer is on the lower end of the heralds in strength.
Professor Hulk is strong but not strong enough to consider as someone that matters. Lastly, arm and chest muscles combined are much stronger than neck muscles. I can smash two men's heads together who are stronger than me with ease. That wouldn't mean I'm stronger. In the same arc, we have Thor overpowering Thanos. Either that means that Thor is stronger than Professor Hulk or arm and chest muscles beat out neck muscles. Choose.
Originally posted by h1a8He did overpower Thor he just couldn't keep him down because he was tapping into the gem.
He didn't overpower the power gem Thor. Thus he didn't overpower anyone that matters. Thing is not strong when compared to these guys. It is like overpowering someone combined with an insect. Namor overpowered a stronger version of Hulk than Thanos did. I guess he is stronger than Thanos. 🙄Overpowering Surfer doesn't mean anything since Surfer is on the lower end of the heralds in strength.
Professor Hulk is strong but not strong enough to consider as someone that matters. Lastly, arm and chest muscles combined are much stronger than neck muscles. I can smash two men's heads together who are stronger than me with ease. That wouldn't mean I'm stronger. In the same arc, we have Thor overpowering Thanos. Either that means that Thor is stronger than Professor Hulk or arm and chest muscles beat out neck muscles. Choose.
Namor didn't overpower both the Hulk and the Thing so I guess you don't have a point.
No, he isn't.
While two guys are coming at you no way are you overpowering both of them to clang their heads together since you're weaker than they are.
Thanos is stronger than any elite top tier based off of portrayal.
1.The rider that Hulk face was blaze in control suppressing the rider it was made clear by Strange who was in control and the vast difference in power it meant.
Sure but as your scans showed at the end Ghost Rider took control and Hulk withstood the subsequent explosion of hellfire well enough before they briefly faced off and the Rider decided there was no case to prosecute.
2.It's anyone's guess how this battle would have gone of the transformed rider had decided to fight the Hulk. [/B]
I agree with this. I just disagree that the comic implied an unleashed Rider would definitely stomp Hulk or anything.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
The Hulk that got his neck snapped was WWH!!!!! I have the book. Stop making shit up.
It wasnt WWH at that point. They explain that they introduce a toxin/drug to a wound on his neck that reverts him to a weaker form so that they can break his neck. This is clearly shown by Hulk turning grey. Within a few seconds though Hulk overcomes the toxin and the broken neck and reverts to his WWH form.
Re: If Thanos is a 100 in strength...
Im not a huge believer in Thanos having above top tier strength. He has a few showings to his credit but others where he looks pretty close to others.
1. Thor - 90
2. Glads - 100
3. Surfer - 70-80
4. Marvel - 100 Same as Supes
5. Mangog - 150 - 200.
6. Darkseid - 100. Hes a little hard to peg.
7. Supes - 100 Maybe more.
8. Black Adam - 100 Same as Supes
9. Orion - 100 Same as Supes
10. Current Hulk - Ignoring the post Zeus weakness i would say he starts about 90, maybe even 100. Goes well up from there.
Thanos may be a little stronger relative to Thor et al than ive given him credit for here but i honestly think its something that gets blown out of proportion a lot.
Look, what carver9 is saying that WWH could match DP Tyrant in A pure physical fight (not that he could match him, if DP Tyrant would use all his abilities, because DP Tyrant is far more powerful than WWH). Maybe he could. Look how was he written. I think if it would come to that, that DP Tyrant would still win also in a pure physical match, but WWH not to be even a close match for him in pure physical fight,... who's to say that? Just because he is Hulk and not some cosmic power like DP Tyrant, doesn't automatically makes him bellow DP Tyrant in a pure physical strength. ''I mean he is Hulk, he doesn't stand a chance'', it doesn't work this way''. If DP Tyrant would handle WWH in a pure brawl like a toy, I wouldn't be surprised also.
Hulk who fought Zeus wasn't WWH (I don't hink WWH would fare much better actually, but that is also because of Zeus magical abilites and simply far more powerful).
Originally posted by Fifthchild
Sure but as your scans showed at the end Ghost Rider took control and Hulk withstood the subsequent explosion of hellfire well enough before they briefly faced off and the Rider decided there was no case to prosecute.I agree with this. I just disagree that the comic implied an unleashed Rider would definitely stomp Hulk or anything.
I am a bit confused at these replies my whole point was that blaze was restraining the rider for that whole fight Carver acted like the rider was nothing to him and I was pointing out the context involved.
I dont believe anything in my post suggest that the ghost rider would stomp hulk where did you see that?
Originally posted by h1a8
He didn't overpower the power gem Thor. Thus he didn't overpower anyone that matters. Thing is not strong when compared to these guys. It is like overpowering someone combined with an insect. Namor overpowered a stronger version of Hulk than Thanos did. I guess he is stronger than Thanos. 🙄Overpowering Surfer doesn't mean anything since Surfer is on the lower end of the heralds in strength.
Professor Hulk is strong but not strong enough to consider as someone that matters. Lastly, arm and chest muscles combined are much stronger than neck muscles. I can smash two men's heads together who are stronger than me with ease. That wouldn't mean I'm stronger. In the same arc, we have Thor overpowering Thanos. Either that means that Thor is stronger than Professor Hulk or arm and chest muscles beat out neck muscles. Choose.
Is h1a8 talking about neck muscles again... come on buddy.. I already proved that was a pile of shit over a year ago and you conceded. Now you bring it up again?
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I am a bit confused at these replies my whole point was that blaze was restraining the rider for that whole fight Carver acted like the rider was nothing to him and I was pointing out the context involved.I dont believe anything in my post suggest that the ghost rider would stomp hulk where did you see that?
Fair enough. I guess i wanted to point out that there was a point at the end where the real GR came out and Hulk endured some Hellfire but admittedly they mostly just had a stare off. But you are right nothing in your post contradicted that. I should drink less coffee.
Originally posted by Fifthchild
Fair enough. I guess i wanted to point out that there was a point at the end where the real GR came out and Hulk endured some Hellfire but admittedly they mostly just had a stare off. But you are right nothing in your post contradicted that. I should drink less coffee.
Hulk withstood that hell fire like he was walking through a sunny day at the beach. I don't think there is a single thing GR could do to that version of Hulk outside of the Penace stare.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Is h1a8 talking about neck muscles again... come on buddy.. I already proved that was a pile of shit over a year ago and you conceded. Now you bring it up again?
Well if the neck muscle argument is invalid then it would mean that Thor is stronger than both Professor Hulk and Thing combined. So Thanos never overpowered anyone that matters.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk withstood that hell fire like he was walking through a sunny day at the beach. I don't think there is a single thing GR could do to that version of Hulk outside of the Penace stare.
I don't think anyone screams while walking down the beach. Unless the Hulk is a screamer....can't say that I'm surprised biscuits