Superman gets a few minor upgrades

Supes finally wises up, and gets a few teeny, insignificant upgrades.

1. He raids Luthors lab, and finds a cure for Kryptonite poisoning.

2. He has Dr. Fate give make him a magic cape that makes him immune to most effects spells like transmutation and such, and resistant to other magic attacks.

3. He forges a blue sun in his "Super Forge", and swallows it, making him immune to red solar radiation while also doubling his usual power level.

4. He takes up Hal's offer for an honorary GL ring, making him highly resistant to most TP and transmutation, in addition to other GL perks (Assume he's only an average user of the ring.)

5. He gets fully trained by Val Amorr, considerably amping his combat effectiveness. For example, now he can easily tear through Inertron, an equivalent of secondary adamantium (According to Val, the trouble Superboy had with the substance would have been solved with his skills.) Naturally, this makes Superman an insanely more effective fighter...

This is Pre Crisis Superman, btw. ^_^;

With these upgrades in mind, how much of a boost would the character get? Who could he beat or match that he previously couldn't, and who could still trash him?

Using some examples, what if he fought PC Mongul, Silver Surfer, or Thanos?

Or Thor with Warrior Madness and the belt of strength?

Or, The Runner?

Or, Odin?

You do realize that a PC supermans equals in a fist fight when he was at his best that are bellow high skyfather can basically be counted on the fingers of a man with no hands right...

Originally posted by cdtm
PC Mongul

Silver Surfer

Thanos?

Or Thor with Warrior Madness and the belt of strength?

Or, Odin?

Odin wins.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Odin wins.

Agreed.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Odin wins.

How? PC Supes with twice the strength and immunity to magic and all of his other weaknesses... How is Odin going to win this?

He doesn't. Superman could grab Asgard and whip it into the entropy at the end of time.

Originally posted by ares834
How? PC Supes with twice the strength and immunity to magic and all of his other weaknesses... How is Odin going to win this?

He won't be immune to magic; OP said the Cape will give him resistance to magic. Even so, Odin's power isn't just magic; it enables him to use vast amounts of cosmic energy as well as divine energy due to his status as a high end Skyfather. Odin's still more versatile to boot. Not to mention Odin still busts galaxies while weakened.

Where has he actually busted a galaxy? My knowledge on Odin is quite limited. I recall him shaking one but never busting one.

Originally posted by ares834
Where has he actually busted a galaxy? My knowledge on Odin is quite limited. I recall him shaking one but never busting one.

His fight with Seth. And his battle with Forsung, which went across the universe, created new suns in their wake. He shook every plane of reality in his fight with Seth, if that's what you thinking about, though.

Originally posted by cdtm
Supes finally wises up, and gets a few teeny, insignificant upgrades.

1. He raids Luthors lab, and finds a cure for Kryptonite poisoning.

2. He has Dr. Fate give make him a magic cape that makes him immune to most effects spells like transmutation and such, and resistant to other magic attacks.

3. He forges a blue sun in his "Super Forge", and swallows it, making him immune to red solar radiation while also doubling his usual power level.

4. He takes up Hal's offer for an honorary GL ring, making him highly resistant to most TP and transmutation, in addition to other GL perks (Assume he's only an average user of the ring.)

5. He gets fully trained by Val Amorr, considerably amping his combat effectiveness. For example, now he can easily tear through Inertron, an equivalent of secondary adamantium (According to Val, the trouble Superboy had with the substance would have been solved with his skills.) Naturally, this makes Superman an insanely more effective fighter...

This is Pre Crisis Superman, btw. ^_^;

With these upgrades in mind, how much of a boost would the character get? Who could he beat or match that he previously couldn't, and who could still trash him?

Using some examples, what if he fought PC Mongul, Silver Surfer, or Thanos?

Or Thor with Warrior Madness and the belt of strength?

Or, The Runner?

Or, Odin?

is this a bait thread? and how r these upgrades minor?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
is this a bait thread? and how r these upgrades minor?

Bingo 😉

Originally posted by Sin I AM
is this a bait thread? and how r these upgrades minor?

But they ARE minor!

At least, compared to some of the upgrades you see, like the belt of strength with warriors madness, or the Power Gem...

All I did was remove most of his weaknesses, and give him a power bump.

I was actually going to make it a yellow sun though, and changed my mind to a blue sun at the last minute... On that, I admit maybe it's a little unnecessary...

Originally posted by Sin I AM
is this a bait thread? and how r these upgrades minor?

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Originally posted by Zack Fair
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Switch the blue sun with a yellow sun, then.

Same power level, just without the weaknesses.

I made this thread to see how Supes would stand up without weakness exploitation.

And for those calling this a "bait thread":

Who, exactly, am I baiting against? I left this open ended for a reason.

If I put PC Superman sans weaknesses against, say, current Thor, you may have a point... (And yes, I did suggest some characters, but as a way of getting the ball rolling... Suggest whomever you want.)

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His fight with Seth. And his battle with Forsung, which went across the universe, created new suns in their wake. He shook every plane of reality in his fight with Seth, if that's what you thinking about, though.

Thanos beats him to death.

Originally posted by cdtm
Switch the blue sun with a yellow sun, then.

Same power level, just without the weaknesses.

I made this thread to see how Supes would stand up without weakness exploitation.

then y not create a thread with plain ole supes without k-nite weakness/ whats with all these god awful amps....

lemme ask u a question, who do u think could beat him under their own power?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
then y not create a thread with plain ole supes without k-nite weakness/ whats with all these god awful amps....

lemme ask u a question, who do u think could beat him under their own power?

Lots of characters.

Odin, Validus, Surtur, Blood and Thunder Thor with Power Gem.

Who do YOU think could beat him?

And how much of a power bump is he getting from these things, really? The magic cape is probably the most significant upgrade.. Green K and Red Sunlight don't even normally come into a standard fight. That's just something so humans or lesser characters with prep could give him problems, like Luthor..