Superman gets a few minor upgrades

Originally posted by cdtm
Lots of characters.

Odin, Validus, Surtur, Blood and Thunder Thor with Power Gem.

Who do YOU think could beat him?

And how much of a power bump is he getting from these things, really? The magic cape is probably the most significant upgrade.. Green K and Red Sunlight don't even normally come into a standard fight. That's just something so humans or lesser characters with prep could give him problems, like Luthor..

dude you put a blue sun inside pre-crisis supeman, if you think B&T Thor can stand a chance your fukcing high

Current Odin shoved a egg of incredible power into the destroyer armor or some such right?

lol @! people crying about upgrades.

Originally posted by Uriel005
that feat is nearly a one time thing and is like saying that superman is a cosmic being because a sneeze destroyed a solar system. Odin put effort into fighting seth and destroyed a galaxy with their combined powers coming into conflict. Superman sneezed a solar system has halted threats with galaxy busting powers (i.e. warworld on crack w/ entropy piloted by braniac) so yeah... if you wanna use feats that are high end for one character be prepared to throw down against the opponents high end feats and Superman has a lot more feats of higher caliber simply due to the amount of material available.

No, it's not the same. Superman sneezing planets away is one of the most mis-used arguments for PC Superman being uber, and most people don't recall the circumstances behind it. Odin was also severely weakened while fighting Seth, and he also has many other feats suggesting him to be in the "galaxy effecting" range of powers.

It has nothing to do with high end feats only.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
No, it's not the same. Superman sneezing planets away is one of the most mis-used arguments for PC Superman being uber, and most people don't recall the circumstances behind it. Odin was also severely weakened while fighting Seth, and he also has many other feats suggesting him to be in the "galaxy effecting" range of powers.

It has nothing to do with high end feats only.

I recall it being Mxy using magic sneezing powder, but I don't think that the powder itself amped him at all, it was just a catalyst type deal.

Mxy's magic dust is a pretty wild variable, I feel, especially considering how much magic played an effect on Pre-Crisis Superman. He certainly didn't exhibit power on a regular basis to clear away galaxies, which is what people seem to think PC Superman is all about.

IIRC Mxy's magic power had a normal man sneeze down a wall or something else that uber.

Originally posted by Juntai
lol @! people crying about upgrades.

u dont agree

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Mxy's magic dust is a pretty wild variable, I feel, especially considering how much magic played an effect on Pre-Crisis Superman. He certainly didn't exhibit power on a regular basis to clear away galaxies, which is what people seem to think PC Superman is all about.

Superman seemed to think that the mere act of him sneezing was a concern that required him to relocate to a dead Solar System. Hell he even called it a "Super-Sneeze" IIRC, as if it was just another one of his powers. There's the implication that he expected it to be a solar system busting attack whether Mxy's magic dust had caused it or not.

I can see you arguing that the presence of the magic powder makes the feat ambiguous or that it's just good old fashioned Silver Age stupidity (though if you're going that way then it becomes incredibly difficult to even argue PC Superman), but from my perspective there's little evidence that Mxy's power was amping him.

I think it was more like Mxy needing to use magic dust to coax a sneeze because at that time in comics the only way you could generally effect Superman was with magic, red sun radiation, or kryptonite.

yeah it's Superboy but blowing requires control, a sneeze is quite unpredictable for PC Kryptonians 😉.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime

yeah it's Superboy but blowing requires control, a sneeze is quite unpredictable for PC Kryptonians 😉.

....he just created a gust of wind strong enough to push the Earth... Wouldn't that be an extinction level event?

At least wipe out a few continents?

Yes but he's obviously using super-make-no-extinctions-or-damage-happen-vision along with it

these superman threads giving supes immunity to magic then placeing him against skyfathers that are 95% based magic. Dont get any more faggoty then that.

Hey heres one, in this thread all of supermans oponents are impervious to speed blitzing and physical damge.

with theses rediculous massive upgrades supes beast everyone minus odin. not sure on the odin fight.

Originally posted by zeel
these superman threads giving supes immunity to magic then placeing him against skyfathers that are 95% based magic. Dont get any more faggoty then that.

Hey heres one, in this thread all of supermans oponents are impervious to speed blitzing and physical damge.

with theses rediculous massive upgrades supes beast everyone minus odin. not sure on the odin fight.

😄 what he said

Originally posted by ares834

Doesn't even need the upgrades...

Doesn't need upgrades...

Doesn't need upgrades.

Oh I don't disagree that Superman needs weaknesses. I just dislike the fact that people love to argue that he's not at the least mid trans at PC levels and would in fact probably be higher were it not for his weaknesses. I mean look at the villains he used to punk when he got serious.

Given he has his low showings which are down right abysmal but if you want to talk about the absolute limits of his strength and speed no other kryptonian comes close. No other hero has the number of top tier opponents under their belt in the DC universe that Superman does. Just the way it is with him being THE flagship hero of all of DC. Just going by mainstream popularity if people want to name an iconic hero 9/10 Superman is going to be it.

So of course Superman is going to be ridiculously overpowered especially when people who've never even picked up a comic basically says Superman is the epitome of heroes.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
😂

You don't think PC Supes can beat Thor, SS, and Thanos... 😕