Black Adam/Superman/Orion/captain Marvel vs Sentry/Thanos

Originally posted by Allankles
Off the top of my head SS, Fallen One, Thor. He's used some kind of shield defense against all three. The main point though is that these so called top tiers have:-
a) great durability against energy attacks - you'd have to show Thanos demonstrating the energetic output to dispatch characters of this level of durability with ease.
b) superior speed and reflexes, you'd have to show Thanos (without his shields) showing the capability to counter the speed of characters with the cqc speed of Superman, BA, CM, even Orion.

He has no energy attacks potent enough to dispatch these guys in one or two hits, after all, these are characters that have withstood disintegration beams, tesseracts opening in their brains, novas, solar system attacks, Orion can erect his own energy shields even. Basically while he's tuffer than any single top tier here, he's not powerful enough to breeze past them with any kind of ease.

You seriously underestimate these guys if you think Thanos will just knock their heads together or back hand them, this would be a real fight. If they're putting all their effort into the struggle (using their speed) he won't even touch them more often than not.

I honestly think you haven't read much Thanos at all.

He took a FULL BLAST from Surfer (his words) straight to the face and smiled and asked if he's done? He used NO shields. He took several blows from a PG Thor WITHOUT his shields and still smiled and sent thor crashing thor the floor. No shileds there and this was from an amped thor which is beyond ANY top tier.

Thanos in his weakest form TWO shot Thor with ease. That is before his upgrades he did that. Pre Upgrade... he ONE SHOT Warlock with ease.. who again is a top tier.. a top tier who also happened to have the soul gem at the time. Those are just TWO instances where he one or two shot top tiers WITH EASE and even killed one. Who me ANY top tier including superman ONE shot killing a top tier.. oooo that's right you won't find it. Yet you go.. thanos hasn't shown the firepower to put down top tiers quickly.. WTF. Need I also remind you of him putting down SS and almost killing hiim with a few punches. Blasting Galactus... who I might add has more durability than any top tier by miles... blasted him miles across the moon. Thor using a Godblast didn't even budge him. How about breaking out of quasar's construct with ease... Thor, Drax, Hulk and countless heroes were all trying to break out of it. Thanos laughs at them all and smiles and promptly ONE SHOTS it with ease. He certainly has the firepower to put down top tiers quickly and you really need to read more Thanos.

Can't react to speed... We've referened the FallenOne situation... which was reacting to a trans-lightster bull-rush with ease. We have him reacting to the maker point blank blast with ease. Same with reacting to thor's hammer shots with ease and stopping them mid-flight. We also have him teleporting out of the way of SS blasting him on two seperate occasions with ease. Surfer fires... Thanos dodges the blasts by teleportation. Point is, he can and has reacted to fast attacks from Top Tiers.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I honestly think you haven't read much Thanos at all.

He took a FULL BLAST from Surfer (his words) straight to the face and smiled and asked if he's done? He used NO shields. He took several blows from a PG Thor WITHOUT his shields and still smiled and sent thor crashing thor the floor. No shileds there and this was from an amped thor which is beyond ANY top tier.

Thanos in his weakest form TWO shot Thor with ease. That is before his upgrades he did that. Pre Upgrade... he ONE SHOT Warlock with ease.. who again is a top tier.. a top tier who also happened to have the soul gem at the time. Those are just TWO instances where he one or two shot top tiers WITH EASE and even killed one. Who me ANY top tier including superman ONE shot killing a top tier.. oooo that's right you won't find it. Yet you go.. thanos hasn't shown the firepower to put down top tiers quickly.. WTF. Need I also remind you of him putting down SS and almost killing hiim with a few punches. Blasting Galactus... who I might add has more durability than any top tier by miles... blasted him miles across the moon. Thor using a Godblast didn't even budge him. How about breaking out of quasar's construct with ease... Thor, Drax, Hulk and countless heroes were all trying to break out of it. Thanos laughs at them all and smiles and promptly ONE SHOTS it with ease. He certainly has the firepower to put down top tiers quickly and you really need to read more Thanos.

Can't react to speed... We've referened the FallenOne situation... which was reacting to a trans-lightster bull-rush with ease. We have him reacting to the maker point blank blast with ease. Same with reacting to thor's hammer shots with ease and stopping them mid-flight. We also have him teleporting out of the way of SS blasting him on two seperate occasions with ease. Surfer fires... Thanos dodges the blasts by teleportation. Point is, he can and has reacted to fast attacks from Top Tiers.

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If Thanos doesn't have his shields does he still get any of his tech, or the artifacts he's possesed like the Reality Gem, Cosmic, Cube, or HoTU. Even without them Thanos rips the Mother Box from Orions unconscious body and keeps it for himself.

Originally posted by Allankles
He's higher on the food chain but that doesn't mean he packs the power to dispatch them in an efficient way.

His shields - the major reason I'd say he beats/overcomes most top tiers - aren't even in this thread. Pretty much he'll get hit... a lot.

Sentry and Thanos are telepaths, right?

Superman digs into his bag of plot device powers and uses T-Vo. 😈

Originally posted by Allankles
Off the top of my head SS, Fallen One, Thor. He's used some kind of shield defense against all three.[quote The main point though is that these so called top tiers have:-
a) great durability against energy attacks - you'd have to show Thanos demonstrating the energetic output to dispatch characters of this level of durability with ease.

) superior speed and reflexes, you'd have to show Thanos (without his shields) showing the capability to counter the speed of characters with the cqc speed of Superman, BA, CM, even Orion.

He has no energy attacks potent enough to dispatch these guys in one or two hits

after all, these are characters that have withstood disintegration beams, tesseracts opening in their brains, novas, solar system attacks,

Orion can erect his own energy shields even. Basically while he's tuffer than any single top tier here, he's not powerful enough to breeze past them with any kind of ease.

You seriously underestimate these guys if you think Thanos will just knock their heads together or back hand them, this would be a real fight. If they're putting all their effort into the struggle (using their speed) he won't even touch them more often than not.

It stands to reason that if Silver Surfer would be able to soundly handle the DC team, which he would, and if Thanos can easily make Surfer his ***** then it stands to reason that with Senty's help the DC team doesn't have a prayer.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

Can't react to speed... We've referened the FallenOne situation... which was reacting to a trans-lightster bull-rush with ease. We have him reacting to the maker point blank blast with ease. Same with reacting to thor's hammer shots with ease and stopping them mid-flight. We also have him teleporting out of the way of SS blasting him on two seperate occasions with ease. Surfer fires... Thanos dodges the blasts by teleportation. Point is, he can and has reacted to fast attacks from Top Tiers.

Oh the typical defense. Every time someone says Thanos will get speed blitzed we get these weak counter argument. Fallen One didn't speed blitz, he rushed at Thanos in a straight line. If you can't even force your opponent to move, beyond raising his hands, that's not a speedblitz. There's also the fact that there's no way to gauge how fast Fallen One was moving as the art didn't really make his speed look impressive, nor was there any narration on the speed level.

Reacting to Maker's blast doesn't demonstrate reflexes capable of reacting to a Superman level speedblitz, let alone reacting to at least 3 possible speedblitzes from different directions.

I've seen magicians like Zatanna, Fate and the like put up defenses against short range energy blasts, and we all know they don't have speedblitz reflexes. Hell I've seen the guys from the Flash rogues (people like Captain Cold) put up a defense against a predictable straight line bull rush from a speedster, doesn't make them capable of reacting to a bone a fide speedblitz.

The SS incident involved his chair. He doesn't have it here.

Have you ever actually seen a Superman level blitz?

He can dodge an energy blast from Thanos (especially after he gauges how powerful he is, he won't want to take too many blasts from him) then move so fast that he'd be standing behind Thanos in the blink of an eye. His speed is such that he could toy with Thanos.

Originally posted by Nihilist
He used a shield against Surfer for 1 blast which means nothing as he has taken a full power blast from Surfer which did nothing and not to mention koing him in 2 punches and then continuing to punch him to death.
Thanos used a shield against POWER GEM Thor who was well above top tier.
Which he has against Ganymede, Jack of Hearts, Fallen One and Captain Marvell

koing Surfer in 2 punches, killing Adam Warlock in 1 blast(Warlock even had the soul gem at the time)He dropped Thor in 2 blasts and had him at his mercy and that was weaker pre res Thanos Thanos has plenty of space cheese feats like these aswell, but the fact is all characters go down to punches/blasts in the end. Where did i say he would breeze past them ?

And you are seriously underestimating Thanos if you think he doesnt have the means or knowledge of facing many foes at once

I don't underestimate Thanos, the simple fact that he can't put up a kinetic barrier to stop these guys from speeding through him is why I give him no chance.

There's also another idea that doesn't make sense to me that keeps getting peddled by the Thanos camp. This idea that Thanos can just take everything that these guys will throw at him, almost indefinitely. Even to the point where he won't be moved by their punches.

Thanos weighs less than a ton, these guys can push planets out of orbit, do the math. Here's a guy who would be a statue against the cqc speed of a Supes, who's getting hit by guys who can crack planetoids with their fists. It's really a bad place to be if you don't have the right tools.

It's not a matter of average power levels, it's a matter of how they stack up against each other tactically. And in the long run, he's just getting hit way more than vice versa.

Originally posted by Allankles
I don't underestimate Thanos, the simple fact that he can't put up a kinetic barrier to stop these guys from speeding through him is why I give him no chance.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
It stands to reason that if Silver Surfer would be able to soundly handle the DC team, which he would, and if Thanos can easily make Surfer his ***** then it stands to reason that with Senty's help the DC team doesn't have a prayer.

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Jesus Christ... You are claiming that Surfer can "soundly handle" this team? That is one of the most idiotic claims I have ever heard on this forum...

Originally posted by Allankles
There's also another idea that doesn't make sense to me that keeps getting peddled by the Thanos camp. This idea that Thanos can just take everything that these guys will throw at him, almost indefinitely. Even to the point where he won't be moved by their punches.

Thanos weighs less than a ton, these guys can push planets out of orbit, do the math. Here's a guy who would be a statue against the cqc speed of a Supes, who's getting hit by guys who can crack planetoids with their fists. It's really a bad place to be if you don't have the right tools.

It's not a matter of average power levels, it's a matter of how they stack up against each other tactically. And in the long run, he's just getting hit way more than vice versa.

Surfer can also destroy planets wit his power yet it has no effect on him. You need proof to show Superman level power can rock or nearly best him. You don't have the proof you just continue to make false claims you cannot back up.

Shields negate anyone just wailing on Thanos.

Originally posted by ares834
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Jesus Christ... You are claiming that Surfer can "soundly handle" this team? That is one of the most idiotic claims I have ever heard on this forum...

Originally posted by Allankles
There's also another idea that doesn't make sense to me that keeps getting peddled by the Thanos camp. This idea that Thanos can just take everything that these guys will throw at him, almost indefinitely. Even to the point where he won't be moved by their punches.

Thanos weighs less than a ton, these guys can push planets out of orbit, do the math. Here's a guy who would be a statue against the cqc speed of a Supes, who's getting hit by guys who can crack planetoids with their fists. It's really a bad place to be if you don't have the right tools.

It's not a matter of average power levels, it's a matter of how they stack up against each other tactically. And in the long run, he's just getting hit way more than vice versa.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Using your logic Superman should have been able to launch Doomsday into orbit or vice versa. And if speed is such a key factor then why haven't significantly faster high herald opponents had much luck against him?

Even without shields Thanos is durable enough to fight this team by himself ......until they unleash hell on his candy ass. Team wins

Team wins this. Spite

Originally posted by Brockalizer
If he can take out Tenebrous and Aegis by himself there is no re reason to think that he couldn't take the team out as well.

Except that he really didn't. He manipulated the crunch.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Team wins this. Spite