Originally posted by Deadline
Its been 4 issues...what exactly is the problem?
Originally posted by Golgo13
Yet, it has got some good reviews. 😛 Depending on where you go, people generally like it. Shrugs.
Since forever, really, but especially since Zero Hour IMO, the JSA has been pushed as the "elder statesmen" of DC. In a comic world where readers have typically been young, the focus has always been on younger heroes and pushing flashy feats and often juvenile dialogue. The JSA have always been those characters that have gone against the grain by being old, by focusing more on character development, relationships, tradition, and plot rather than showing off who can lift more and push the limits of ridiculousness the furthest. Johns, I think, really fleshed out and explored these ideas brilliantly.
And now what have they become? They're young and inexperienced (with shittier costumes). Instead of being the inspirations, they're the followers. They've lost their identity, and in doing so become something completely redundant (yay more young heroes learning how to use their powers, how to be responsible, yada yada yada tired old story)
I can rant more if anyone's interested.
Originally posted by Cogito
Since forever, really, but especially since Zero Hour IMO, the JSA has been pushed as the "elder statesmen" of DC. In a comic world where readers have typically been young, the focus has always been on younger heroes and pushing flashy feats and often juvenile dialogue. The JSA have always been those characters that have gone against the grain by being old, by focusing more on character development, relationships, tradition, and plot rather than showing off who can lift more and push the limits of ridiculousness the furthest. Johns, I think, really fleshed out and explored these ideas brilliantly.And now what have they become? They're young and inexperienced (with shittier costumes). Instead of being the inspirations, they're the followers. They've lost their identity, and in doing so become something completely redundant (yay more young heroes learning how to use their powers, how to be responsible, yada yada yada tired old story)
I can rant more if anyone's interested.
Yes please go ahead.
In particular I'm irritated by what they did to Mister Terrific. Mr T was one of the few iconic black characters. One of the things that made him iconic was that he makes you want to be like him eg encounter with Jakeem. A lot has changed but we still need black characters like him.
The only other iconic black character is Black Panther and possibly John Stewart. Luke Cage is not ****ing iconic, i like him though.
As I have said this is also ageism and this is about selling more comics. As far as I can remember age was also an important aspect to the group. You could say its not that important to the rest of the DCU but not the JSA. I gotta say I always felt that was quite shallow.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Didn't we know they would be young before the series started?
How is that even relevant?
Originally posted by Golgo13
I am mostly interested in Terry Sloan, Super Genius and the upcoming story, Magic vs Science.
That the guy that owned Mister Terrific? That will be interesting.
Originally posted by Deadline
How is that even relevant?That the guy that owned Mister Terrific? That will be interesting.
I just find it odd that some people would find it interesting than have negative views after they already know the fact of everyone being deaged. This is DCnU, not DC old. I for one don't care about the ages, I just want to read good stories.
BTW, Dr. Fate will be making an appearance as well. Along with these tidbits.
-There were apparently EIGHT superheroes (or 'Wonders'😉 during the 'Age of Wonders'. These included Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Robin, Catwoman, Terry Sloane and an eight unknown character. More on this era will be revealed in the zero issue, which will deal with how Terry Sloane went from being a hero to being an anti-hero/villain.-The heroes on E2 are called 'Wonders' because Wonder Woman was the first public hero on that world.
-Wesley Dodds shall be appearing in issue 5 though he won't yet be part of the team.
-The precise time span hasn't been determined, but the 'Wonders' were active on E2 for several years before the Apokolips War.
-If DC allows a Hawkgirl on E0, there's a possibility that Robinson could introduce a new Hawkman on E2.
-Robinson has an idea for an 'Infinity Inc' team based in E2's future which will allow for the reinvention of characters like Jade and Obsidian.
-Rex Tyler/Hourman will eventually show up at some point in the series.
Originally posted by Golgo13
I just find it odd that some people would find it interesting than have negative views after they already know the fact of everyone being deaged. This is DCnU, not DC old. I for one don't care about the ages, I just want to read good stories.BTW, Dr. Fate will be making an appearance as well. Along with these tidbits.
Knowing about it beforehand doesn't lessen the annoyance, especially when the book itself hasn't been super.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Like I said before, the book has had some good reviews. If you didn't like the heroes being younger, than you probably shouldn't have started it.
Considering some of the other books that have gotten good reviews, that's not saying much.
Besides, I'm pretty sure those of us that were disappointed by the age difference were still hoping that the book would at least be a good read.
Originally posted by Golgo13
You should read the book before saying anything negative about. Plus im just not going off of reviews but other boards opinions. Its generally positive.
I have read it, just not all of it. So far the book from what ive seen has been recieved as being below average at best. I mean even taking out the changes to the characters, robinson is still not crafting a good book in general.