Originally posted by Silent Master
Then show current Emma midraping heroes.
Off the top of my head, Ms. Marvel, Iron Man, Cyclops. The first too just because they pissed her off. Heck Namor? She was even entering his mind without him knowing because she was bored. She mentally buzzed the Fantastic Four and the X-Men because they were fighting with one another. Emma doesn't give a crap. Not to mention she tortured Bishop under Cyclops' orders.
Yes she did it to Cyclops in Warsong, she made him miss his target on purpose.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
[center][b]As the wise Xmarks would say:Emma tells Tony to f*ck off.
Emma tells Carol to f*ck off.
Originally posted by zopzop
No, I was merely pointing out Asgardians aren't humans/mortals. If his soul was fortified against an attack by a Soul Gem wielded by an expert user, I'm willing to bet his mind is also harder to shut down/attack than a mortals.Plus when has Emma ever attacked a God with her TP and won?
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Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Off the top of my head, Ms. Marvel, Iron Man, Cyclops. The first too just because they pissed her off. Heck Namor? She was even entering his mind without him knowing because she was bored. She mentally buzzed the Fantastic Four and the X-Men because they were fighting with one another. Emma doesn't give a crap. Not to mention she tortured Bishop under Cyclops' orders.Yes she did it to Cyclops in Warsong, she made him miss his target on purpose.
My firewall wont let me enlarge the pics, but it doesn't seem like she's shutting their minds down.
Originally posted by Silent Master
My firewall wont let me enlarge the pics, but it doesn't seem like she's shutting their minds down.
Does she need to shut down their minds? Your issue is about her having qualms about using her powers on heroes. She shut down Hellions mind, he was her favourite pupil.
She mind controlled Cyclops into blasting Wolverine in Phoenix Warsong.
Oh and at the end of House of M she shut down everyones mind in the mansion cause she couldn't herself think.
In Gen X she mind controlled all her students, she's done that on a few occasions.
She's killed a horse to manipulate a little girl you're mistaken if you think Emma Frost has issues using her powers on heroes. It's a specialty.
Besides, a full on mind blast from a Mind Gem weilding Moondragon couldnt even slow Thor; he completely ignored the attack...
But Emma-freaking-Frost is just going to casually shut his mind down... 😂
I say again, Emma will be useless against Thor and she dies the moment any of his attacks land flush on her frail mortal body...
This is spite...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Besides, a full on mind blast from a mind gem weilding Moondragon couldnt even slow Thor; he completely ignored the attack...But Emma-freaking-Frost is just going to casually shut his mind down... 😂
I say again, Emma will be useless against Thor and she dies the moment any of his attacks land flush on her frail mortal body...
This is spite...
Warrior Madness.
And Thor has been mindraped by Moondragon without the gem, then there's Bedlam. His resistance depends on the writer. Thors mental resistance ranges. There was a very detailed thread with high and low showings.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Does she need to shut down their minds? Your issue is about her having qualms about using her powers on heroes. She shut down Hellions mind, he was her favourite pupil.She mind controlled Cyclops into blasting Wolverine in Phoenix Warsong.
Oh and at the end of House of M she shut down everyones mind in the mansion cause she couldn't herself think.
In Gen X she mind controlled all her students, she's done that on a few occasions.
She's killed a horse to manipulate a little girl you're mistaken if you think Emma Frost has issues using her powers on heroes. It's a specialty.
SasuOna has mentioned her shutting Thor's brain down more than once...that is the type of "mindrape" that I'm saying isn't a normal tactic.
With most other uses of TP, I believe Thor could withstand long enough to make at least one attack.
Originally posted by Silent Master
SasuOna has mentioned her shutting Thor's brain down more than once...that is the type of "mindrape" that I'm saying isn't a normal tactic.With most other uses of TP, I believe Thor could withstand long enough to make at least one attack.
Shutting peoples brains down is common for Emma. And she's down it to her own, she did it to Hellion, Elixir. She did it to the entire mansion at the end of HoM.
The Sentry's wife smashed her face off a table because Emma pulled her into his mind.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Warrior Madness.And Thor has been mindraped by Moondragon without the gem, then there's Bedlam. His resistance depends on the writer. Thors mental resistance ranges. There was a very detailed thread with high and low showings.
She only influenced him, she even admitted that she couldn't outright control him, she needed to play to his arrogance.
And that was a Moondragon that had planetary level TP.
Originally posted by Silent Master
She only influenced him, she even admitted that she couldn't outright control him, she needed to play to his arrogance.And that was a Moondragon that had planetary level TP.
When did she admit that? I don't recall that stated in New Avengers. She said he needed to remain calm so the void didn't kill the other heroes.
She built a room in his mind and messed around with his brain and memories and that was against Bobs will too. She said she could lobotomise a God from that room.
Bedlam got him too. There are other instances as well. His tp resistance is inconsistent.
Oh wait you meant Moondragon. No she froze him telepathically. With a room full of superheroes.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm talking about the Avengers 219 and 220.
Moondragon is able to read Thors secret in his mind and she then mind wipes all the Avengers present in these scans.
Moondragon is able to prevent every Avenger in the room from looking at her, she then freezes them all. His thoughts are interconnected to his suit, so he commands it to carry himself out of her range apparently. Anyway he doesn't jam her psi-powers he makes it difficult to deploy them. She's getting static on every channel. Can be overcome with a little concentration. The Avengers are free and Tony tells them to not give her time to concentrate. She can still deploy her TK though.
Bedlam ensanring Thor, Iron Man and Spider-Man. Xavier counters Bedlam long enough to break his hold on them.
Also, Toad used the Strangers machine to cast illusions that fooled Thor.
He's resistant...depending on the writer.
His mental resistance is really up in the air.
Mijonir is a skyfather weapon. Odin went above and beyond with the hammer while enchanting it, which reflects thor potential but he's not there yet. He will grow one day in innate power to be as efficient with or without mijonir but as of now it would take a team effort to win but they would win barring plot induced stupidity or character induced stupidity.
