Originally posted by Sr J-BiebNone of this stuff matters. All that matters is Ulik has no strength feats to even say he is stronger than Colossus. If I had to guess then I would say they are around the same strength (or colossus a little stronger). You have to know that Thor is always written down to him. So that doesn't mean Ulik is in Thor's NORMAL league. Colossus going up against other class 100 bricks and even koeing one (Savage Hulk) is IMO greater than anything Ulik ever done. Hell, Ulik never got a victory over a class 100 brick to even suggest that he is stronger than Colossus.
I don't need to post anything tbh. Maybe if you brought up something of substance. I mean, you think 3 low feats spread out over 50 issues worth of pages makes an average... hell, you actually only have 2 low feats since falling off a building and screaming isn't a low feat. You being moronic isn't you being right. It's you being moronic. Get some common sense.
Funny how the guy who runs away anytime I argue with him is talking about all I do... you never have any proof, no substance, and everytime you start talking everyone disagrees with you. This shit is hysterical to me. Hell, when Rage posted all those scans all you could say was "Buh buh, he's written down exactly after all of those scans".What you don't get, is that every old scan Rage posted was without his pounders as well.
Yes, after Ulik got rid of Mjolnir, he was able to give Thor a fight though. Actually, Ulik technically beat Thor, and then Thor cheapshots him and we don't see the rest of the fight. OMG OWNAGEROFFLE!!!But anyway, since you're just going to whine if I don't show you something, here's him getting up right after backlash from two Mjolnir clones, and Mjolnir that hurt even Thor and tore off Sif's arm.
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor80-016.jpgHell he survived Mjolnir's backlash from breaking and three other hammers (and yes, Thor was written like a beast in this arc):
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor80-018.jpgHim getting KO'ed from falling off buildings isn't the average. What I posted wasn't the best feat ever, but it sure as hell goes against him getting KO'ed from falling of buildings and a grenade... Hell, the Punisher scans (which are much more recent) go against the grenade thing. IIRC he also had a decent fight against Thor in Thor's 13th annual.
Also, him getting KO'ed from falling off a building is the same issue when Thor was KO'ed/trapped under a bunch of cars for 60 seconds... that issue was obviously a great showcase of everyone... Thor gets beaten by some cars, and Ulik gets beaten by falling off a building. If Ulik gets beaten by more respectable means, does that make him above Thor?
Because I never said it did. The mere fact that I'm arguing with you about your stance that anything after 1979 is a weakened Ulik means I'm not just looking at the fight that Rage posted. I don't shit on characters just because I saw two low feats someone posted on the internet, and make up some ridiculous logic in an attempt to factor those feats in with some retarded cut off point.
But if I was, that was much better than Colossus would fare against Thor, and he was also beating Wolverine, which is apparently beyond Colossus' capabilities so...
Originally posted by psycho gundam
when did he knock out the hulk?
Good question 😄
@h1a8
Dude I was one of Ulik's biggest doubters but Rage's early 60-70s scans plus the ones Sr J-Bieb put up sorta erased all doubt.
To add more fuel to the fire, the recent showing Rage posted against Thor/Shadowcat/Wolverine had Wolverine slashing Ulik with both of his claws and Ulik wasn't even cut or bleeding.
I saw a scan somewhere of a relatively recent X-men comic where Colossus saying he was lucky to avoid a swipe of Wolverine's claws!
Ulik gets the majority wins (and I'm being generous to Colossus).
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWI saw a scan of pre-Mags upgraded Piotr shrugging off a blow from Logan's claws once.
Ulik had claw marks on all over his body, dude... but yeah, he wasn't bleeding. Was it because the book was directed towards younger audience? Perhaps, but it still gives off the feeling he's more durable than Piotr.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ulik had claw marks on all over his body, dude... but yeah, he wasn't bleeding. Was it because the book was directed towards younger audience? Perhaps, but it still gives off the feeling he's more durable than Piotr.
I can understand not wanting to show blood as it was geared to a younger audience but they barely did any damage to the skin. He'd have to unleash swipes at the eyeballs to cause any impairing damage. Assuming they're a lot more vulnerable to damage.
Originally posted by zopzopActually it isn't wise to go by character's words. There was another instance in which Logan tried to slash Colossus and it didn't even put a scratch on him. And being durable against energy projection is not the same as being durable against punches. Ulik surviving blasts (something Colossus would also be shown to do at best) has no bearing on him withstanding Colossus punches.
Good question 😄@h1a8
Dude I was one of Ulik's biggest doubters but Rage's early 60-70s scans plus the ones Sr J-Bieb put up sorta erased all doubt.
To add more fuel to the fire, the recent showing Rage posted against Thor/Shadowcat/Wolverine had Wolverine slashing Ulik with both of his claws and Ulik wasn't even cut or bleeding.
I saw a scan somewhere of a relatively recent X-men comic where Colossus saying he was lucky to avoid a swipe of Wolverine's claws!
Ulik gets the majority wins (and I'm being generous to Colossus).
The ONLY way to prove that Ulik can beat Colossus for a majority is to show that his striking power/punch durability/skill combo is greater than Colossus's striking power/punch durability/skill combo.
I say Colossus is stronger and slightly more durable against punches.
I say his skill is about equal (if not slightly more) than Uliks.
