Swamp Thing vs Legion

Originally posted by Prep-Man
anton arcane. at his heigh it was said he was spectre level or beyond.

Said to be simply isn't enough. What's his capacity, what can he do?

GST didn't beat Arcane. That was "standard" ST, IIRC. Pretty sure standard ST also tore Tefe apart after Tefe defeated The Word.

Ward!!!!!

So what are his feats?

anton possessed vast magical abilities, mucking with reality, possessing souls and bodies. either way, legion aint beating st at his most powerful.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
anton possessed vast magical abilities, mucking with reality, possessing souls and bodies. either way, legion aint beating st at his most powerful.

Show me when he Anton reality warped, so we can compare it to Legion.

Originally posted by "Id"
Said to be simply isn't enough. What's his capacity, what can he do?

Said to be equal to Spectre or Trigon my the Monitor, using tech to measure the output.

And he was capable of altering reality, sending "untainted" souls into hell (Which is impressive, considering he's infringing on Death and Gods domain here..)

The caveat, is Swamp Thing needs to be in a "place of power" to access his full powers, like a swamp. Outside of a swamp, he had trouble with a warewolf.

Lets see, after Anton vacated the body, the original personality, while dying, took Swamp Things girlfriends dead body and repaired it, and left it in a living stable condition, then he reached down into hell to retrieve the soul.

The only reason he failed, is because he was on the verse of death, and so lost the soul.

Legion for the majority.

not against gst. maybe against elemental. who are we using anyway?

What exactly has GST ever done? And no hyperbole please, just on panel feats.

Originally posted by Harbinger GST didn't beat Arcane. That was "standard" ST, IIRC. Pretty sure standard ST also tore Tefe apart after Tefe defeated The Word.

tefe is st daughter? if she defeated the word then wow.

Tefe is ST's daughter.

She defeated The Word by mimicking the reverse sound God used to originally create it. She had to shapeshift into a form that would approximate the sound.

I think those were the conditions. Galan's the resident ST expert, though, so if I'm wrong, hopefully he can correct me.

Originally posted by cdtm

And he was capable of altering reality, sending "untainted" souls into hell (Which is impressive, considering he's infringing on Death and Gods domain here..)

I fail to see how this is a form of reality warping. And far short, to what Legion has accomplished.

I mean, hey I can dress up my comments to make them look more impressive than what they really worth.

I'm skimming the Swamp Thing respect thread for feats currently, but I found one of interest for just Elemental Swamp Thing:

He survives direct contact with the Anti-Monitor's Anti-matter wave, which is capable of obliterating entire universes.

Was he struck with a universe(s) obliterating force?

Yes. It wouldn't matter anyway since he just regrows in a different universe.

Found something else. This scan represents a conversation between The Word and Phantom Stranger concerning All Elemental/God Swamp Thing:

The Word is essentially the next step up from The Spectre and is one of the most powerful entities in all of creation. See how he mentions that God-thing almost succeeded in replacing The Voice/The Source/Yahweh/God/etc.

Here's the Anton Arcane bit with the Monitor by the way:

That version of Anton Arcane, who was said to be a peer to Trigon or (some version of) The Spectre was defeated by Elemental Swamp Thing, not God-Thing.

Also felt this might be appropriate even if its not some large scale reality warp feat or something similar:

Swamp Thing under his own power severs the connection of a Black Lantern version of himself. This BL was not powered by a ring but by the remaining power of Nekron on Earth.

Keep in mind that in order to sever the connection previously (from just a ring) you would either need the combination of multiple outbursts of the emotional spectrum, Pre-Crisis emotional output of varying levels or the direct output of a deitific force.

Also keep in mind that just a grouping of Black Lantern rings were capable of puppeteering The Spectre. And that it took the combined power of Hal Jordan as Parallax to break The Spectre free of that.

Again, not an Omnipotent showing but something very impressive.

God Thing was above the likes of The Spectre and The Word and was a challenge to The Presence