Originally posted by Deja~vu
More on EnzymesDr. Day is an internationally acclaimed orthopedic trauma surgeon and best selling author who was for 15 years on the faculty of the University of California, San Francisco, School of Medicine as Associate Professor and Vice Chairman of the Department of Orthopedics. She was also Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at San Francisco General Hospital and is recognized world-wide as an AIDS expert. In addition, as Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at San Francisco General Hospital, one of the premier trauma hospitals in the country, she ran the equivalent of a M.A.S.H. unit for many years. For the past 20-25 years, she has been invited to lecture to doctors at numerous University medical schools including Vanderbilt, Baylor, Cincinnati, Tufts, South Carolina, Iowa, USC, Minnesota and countless medical societies throughout the U.S. including the Massachusetts Medical Society, as well as other medical organizations around the world, including the Royal Society of Medicine in London
There are many books written on the subject that you just need more raw food in your diet or else. I can find other links, but for now and since I've read many of her books myself and she is well established in the Medical community, I'll start with her.
Most doctors aren't trained much in prevention, but a lackeys for the pharmaceutical companies because that's where the money is. How could they make money if we all stayed well?
http://www.drday.com/tumor.htm#rumors 🙂
She is a Christian so I hope that doesn't bother anybody.
http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/dr_day/testimonials.htm
I'm not your secretary. Find your own studies. I've read too much on the subject. I've also volunteered at a clinic where they did use enzymes to cure certain cancers AND CONDITIONS. I also cured a condition that I had in doing this.
People need ENZYMES. As you get older, especially, you need more of them. Enjoy your colon cancer too. lol You're all gonna get it...
Originally posted by Deja~vu
I'm not going to post all the books in the world on it or list every lecture about it. I'm too busy.It's simple. Eat healthy food including fruits and veggies just like your mommy told you to. WTF
^^ You're starting to annoy me, thank god I had a V-8. lol
http://www.iowasource.com/food/lenkastudy_0806.html
http://www.rawfoodnetwork.com/clinicalstudiesandfinding.html
Now I'm not telling everyone to go nuts and only eat raw foods, all I'm saying is that it's good for you to stay more healthy
Originally posted by Deja~vu
More on EnzymesDr. Day is an internationally acclaimed orthopedic trauma surgeon and best selling author who was for 15 years on the faculty of the University of California, San Francisco, School of Medicine as Associate Professor and Vice Chairman of the Department of Orthopedics. She was also Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at San Francisco General Hospital and is recognized world-wide as an AIDS expert. In addition, as Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at San Francisco General Hospital, one of the premier trauma hospitals in the country, she ran the equivalent of a M.A.S.H. unit for many years. For the past 20-25 years, she has been invited to lecture to doctors at numerous University medical schools including Vanderbilt, Baylor, Cincinnati, Tufts, South Carolina, Iowa, USC, Minnesota and countless medical societies throughout the U.S. including the Massachusetts Medical Society, as well as other medical organizations around the world, including the Royal Society of Medicine in London
But see none of these credentials matter since she herself has rejected all of them an unholy. Her work isn't based on science (or evidence or facts) she says god handed the knowledge to her. She's also a fan of oddly easy to disprove claims like saying that medicine has never cured anyone of cancer (maybe all those tumors we've physically taken out of people were lies from the devil?) and milk damages your bones.
Have you considered finding sources that aren't a) spouting obvious bullshit and b) clearly insane?
Originally posted by Deja~vu
http://www.iowasource.com/food/lenkastudy_0806.html
A "raw diet" is fine and all if you're lucky enough to live in certain countries. But advising some Ugandan to eat "raw" will likely end up killing them, cooking = dead harmful parasites/bacteria.
Though personally from my own experience, the vast majority of vegans and vegetarians I've met were either underweight or overweight, both not ideal situations.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosWell, I have read many books, especially nutritional, health and medical books and they quote studies in them Unfortunately they are packed away until I move.
But see none of these credentials matter since she herself has rejected all of them an unholy. Her work isn't based on science (or evidence or facts) she says god handed the knowledge to her. She's also a fan of oddly easy to disprove claims like saying that medicine has never cured anyone of cancer (maybe all those tumors we've physically taken out of people were lies from the devil?) and milk damages your bones.Have you considered finding sources that aren't a) spouting obvious bullshit and b) clearly insane?
All I can do here is try to find links. 😬
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Well, I have read many books, especially nutritional, health and medical books and they quote studies in them Unfortunately they are packed away until I move.All I can do here is try to find links. 😬
Can you remember the name of one person you read who wasn't (I'll make this really easy) COMPLETELY INSANE? Alternately the name of one person who even tried to find good evidence that their claims are true.
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Now I'm not telling everyone to go nuts and only eat raw foods, all I'm saying is that it's good for you to stay more healthy
Staying healthy is good but raws foods don't have magic powers or mystic life enzymes in them. Meats happen to be dangerous when eaten raw.
On the other side Skeptoid has a nice podcast (and transcript) on this subject. Dunning provides his citations at the end of the transcript:
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4030
"If you want to eat raw food, by all means, go right ahead. It's healthy and it's delicious. But you can enjoy it without making absurd claims, and you can enjoy it without pointlessly attacking the alternatives. Please be careful that you don't catch E. Coli or salmonella, unless you're one of the people that tries to spread any of the above lies; in which case, don't worry about E. Coli and salmonella. If it's raw it can't hurt you. Eat up."
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosGive me 6 months once I move and get my books out. It's been over 5 years since I packed them away. Sorry
Can you remember the name of one person you read who wasn't (I'll make this really easy) COMPLETELY INSANE? Alternately the name of one person who even tried to find good evidence that their claims are true.
Oh, and I don't only eat raw food. I eat shellfish, fish, chicken and I love turkey, but I eat my veggies. 😄
I was on a raw food diet when I had a very low hypothyroid problem and did this for a little while and have never had a problem since.
But I"m done making my point.
I don't care much about the argument occurring but I will say this:
Eating the same foods over and over make it EASIER to digest, NOT more difficult. The enzyme "depletion" concept is completely wrong in the most direct way possible. You don't deplete your "enzymes" by eating the same food. The same exact chemicals that break down your food (read: Salivary Amylase, alpha-amylase, Hydrochloric Acid, lipase, pepsin, rennin, and a host of probiotics) can occur in differing ratios as your body adapts to digesting a particular food. That's the exact opposite of that coocoo science. Even the probiotic environment changes to more efficiently digest your food the more you eat it. Your body will make those enzymes regardless of what you eat...as long as you eat food that has nutrional value. Why? Chemistry is quite simple at this point: organic compounds can be broken down and reassembled into just about everything that occurs in our body. Again, why? BECAUSE IT TOOK HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF YEARS to make a machine, like our body, that could do that.
If you do not eat fresh vegetables very often, you will ACTUALLY BECOME SICK if you eat a large helping of vegetables. Your body simply is not prepared to digest a large amount of vegetables and it makes you feel nauseous, gives you gas, could give you heartburn, give you a headache, etc.
The same is true if you eat mostly fresh fruits and vegetables: if you eat a large hamburger, you will get sick because your body is not prepared to digest that food.
Try it out: go on a diet and eat a certain type of food or foods for about one month. Eat nothing but burgers, steaks, and beef jerky. (Of course, drink water or soda.) Then, switch your diet to nothing but raw, fresh veggies (make sure to include protein veggies like legumes, beans, etc.) Of course, cook your beans, but you get the point.
Your first meal on the veggies diet will make you sick. For some, it could make you horribly sick and you may vomit. I'm not even kidding.
That should more than prove or shutup the idiots that spout "fresh fruits and veggies for life! SEE! I GOT SICK WHEN I ATE A CHEESEBURGER AFTER 2 YEARS BEING A VEGAN! I TOLD YOU IT WAS BAD FOR YOU!" It's not as simple as that.
When I ate the straight raw veggie/fruit diet for the first time I was horrible sick for about 3 weeks. I felt I had to quit. I couldn't stand the cramps, and crap and so much pain I was fricking camping and was always running out and was in sooooooooo much pain... But just after that, it all became normal for me. My throid problem was forever gone!! I felt better, I realized that that ws what it took to clean out my colon and systems and getting rid of some toxins...I had my blood testee and was told that I would be on hypothyroid meds my old life. The phlebotomists said that never happens, yet he was surprised. I did it again every month for 4 months and was found to no long need the meds. I had been on them from the age of 15 and for20 years. He said it was impossible to get off those once you are on them...It was sure hell to do that crazy diet, but I do those things just to see if they really work and since then, no longer take meds. It's been over 7 years now and i still get tested.
I think doing these radical diets cleans your whole body out and the enzymes help facilities it.
And Like I said, I no longer do that, but eat light meats but sparingly, could be my metabolism or maybe it's what they say. There are a lot of people when I worked at the clinic that was known for these types of cures....
I really don't understand the debate at all. It just make common sense to me.
I'm the sort of person that tries things unlike parrots who speak others words. If I don't try it then I shouldn't comment on it. Just like a book or a move, I'll watch or read it otherwise I am parroting others words and that doesn't make us thinkers but parrots and sheeple...lol
I was at one time during this huddles in the fetal position on the floor in so much pain.