Originally posted by h1a8
Oh you input the word "durability".
Again what feats does Zeus has that's puts his durability against blunt force above all high heralds?Glads affected PF Cyke physically. Thor's slam, with all his might, was stopped by Cyke's pinky finger.
What does Cyclops stopping Thor's hammer with his mind have to do with anything in this thread? Not to mention Cyclops was trying to talk to Gladiator.
A fairer comparison would be Thor shattering Phoenix Emma Frost in diamond form in one hit and Gladiator's punches doing absolutely nothing to Cyclops. At base levels, Emma is MUCH more durable then Cyclops.
Originally posted by Silent MasterMaybe. But if Glads retains that level of strength in the future then it would solidify. But Zeus only feat of durability is surviving Hulk's blows (although it has been retcon that Hulk was always holding back). But Zeus was definitely affected by the blows. So I'm saying that Glads can affect Zeus to some degree. Maybe it would take hundred blows to fell Zeus. Glads has the speed on his side.
You realize that per forum rules PIS isn't allowed, and if what you say is true, that would make the scene PIS.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI disagree that Emma is more durable in PF forms. Otherwise, Cyke wouldn't have stopped Thor with his finger. Diamond can shatter easily (even with a sledge hammer). There exists no instance where it was shown that Gladiator's punches did absolutely nothing to Cyclops. Where are you getting this from?
What does Cyclops stopping Thor's hammer with his mind have to do with anything in this thread? Not to mention Cyclops was trying to talk to Gladiator.A fairer comparison would be Thor shattering Phoenix Emma Frost in diamond form in one hit and Gladiator's punches doing absolutely nothing to Cyclops. At base levels, Emma is MUCH more durable then Cyclops.
Also as powerful as those P5 were it still took many hits to fell Gladiator.
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Here you go good posters
Originally posted by h1a8
Maybe. But if Glads retains that level of strength in the future then it would solidify. But Zeus only feat of durability is surviving Hulk's blows (although it has been retcon that Hulk was always holding back). But Zeus was definitely affected by the blows. So I'm saying that Glads can affect Zeus to some degree. Maybe it would take hundred blows to fell Zeus. Glads has the speed on his side.
So you're using what you admit is currently a PIS showing, IOW you're knowingly breaking forum rules.
Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree that Emma is more durable in PF forms. Otherwise, Cyke wouldn't have stopped Thor with his finger. Diamond can shatter easily (even with a sledge hammer). There exists no instance where it was shown that Gladiator's punches did absolutely nothing to Cyclops. Where are you getting this from?Also as powerful as those P5 were it still took many hits to fell Gladiator.
On what basis would you disagree? I mean, they could use the force to amp their stats drastically (For example, I'd wager Emma and Cyclops were not far off from Namor/Peter in strength) but Thor still shattered Emma. We saw Phoenix Emma fight other beings in regular form and she came up off as no less durable then Cyclops IIRC. So? You do realize that physical durability and telekinetic power does not have to have a direct correlation right? And Cyclops was trying to reason with Gladiator for a large chunk of that.
Well, they turned his head I guess:
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Okay? Thor after being bombarded by Phoenix Emma Frosts shards falling down from space still took multiple blows from Emma. You want to know the difference between the two? Thor was back on his feet fighting right after. Gladiator however spent the rest of the event in intensive care and on life support.
Yes, 2 members using Gladiator as their cumrag with ease is evidence that the combined might of ALL five were needed to beat him:
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Look hulk was holding back. Yes he's a boring character, yes he's childish, no I really dont like his solo shit. But hulk can tear threw reality with strength alone. Hulk letting Zeus beat on him in a extremely calm state is a high durability feat for hulk. Hulk had clapped out a dimension, one shotted a meteor 2x earth size. Gladiator has great durability better then sentry and Thor hulks is better. You don't have to like the greentard but he's a physical trans LV being. Now glad vs Zeus in a fist fight Zeus can amp so he should win, glads will will be broken by Zeus.
Originally posted by mighty adamYeah, Hulk has some good feats. It a shame WWH got almost beaten to death by Zeus in h2h
Look hulk was holding back. Yes he's a boring character, yes he's childish, no I really dont like his solo shit. But hulk can tear threw reality with strength alone. Hulk letting Zeus beat on him in a extremely calm state is a high durability feat for hulk. Hulk had clapped out a dimension, one shotted a meteor 2x earth size. Gladiator has great durability better then sentry and Thor hulks is better. You don't have to like the greentard but he's a physical trans LV being. Now glad vs Zeus in a fist fight Zeus can amp so he should win, glads will will be broken by Zeus.
Zeus used divine Skyfather power to strip Hulk of his powers.
He charged his fists with divine power, and he turned off Hulk's healing factor.
It's right there on-panel. Another godling even talks to Hulk about while he is strapped to the rock.
It kills the validity of that fight even more than Hulk's "I'm here to die for family" demeanor (IMO).
