Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes...because it was overloaded by the sheer amounts of damage that Zeus is able to output.As explained here:
I mean, in the previous scan I showed, Zeus himself says, as stated explicitly, that he was only going to use his hands to beat him to death.
The Gammafags are about to be zapped by lightning if they keep calling Zeus a liar 😄
Originally posted by janus77
It was explained, more than once, in the comics that Zeus' magic was the cause of Hulk's HF failing. It was also stated that Zeus' magic has a particular effect on Hulk, when the Betty-Harpies were attacking in separate incident.
Betty Harpies aside, when else was it said that Zeus' magic was the cause of it failing?
I mean, yes, Hephaestus said that after being hit, his strength wouldn't return....but if that is the clearest proof you are using, then it can easily be interpreted as Heph saying: 'Zeus hit you so hard, you're going to be feeling it into next week.' And this second explanation is bolstered by Zeus saying he was going to only use his fists to beat him to death.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Husband, what are you...I'm granting this blasphemer's request...to be beaten to [b]death
....by hand.[/B]
It's like suggesting that a hit from mjolnir is much the same thing as a hit from a hammer of the same weight, size, shape and density.
Zeus used magical lightening, from the off, then magically charged fists and his magic nullified Hulk's healing factor.
I've got the comic archived somewhere, but the scans should be on KMC too, as the point was made about this issue a while back.
Originally posted by janus77
Yes, he used his hands but no, that does not mean that he did not use magic.It's like suggesting that a hit from mjolnir is much the same thing as a hit from a hammer of the same weight, size, shape and density.
Zeus used magical lightening, from the off, then magically charged fists and his magic nullified Hulk's healing factor.
I've got the comic archived somewhere, but the scans should be on KMC too, as the point was made about this issue a while back.
That's true....but then, another way of looking at it is that Thor, when using Mjolnir, magically nullifies Hulk's HF every time he draws blood. Whilst he has never hurt Hulk so badly that he takes significant time to recover, that's simply because he isn't as strong as Zeus.
That is another way of looking at it.
Of course, I'll accept it if I did miss something elsewhere in the comic. Something about Zeus magically cancelling out his HF. Am not at home at the moment, so not got access to my comics, but that is a poor excuse, so I will attempt to search for it. Help is always appreciated.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's true....but then, another way of looking at it is that Thor, when using Mjolnir, magically nullifies Hulk's HF every time he draws blood. Whilst he has never hurt Hulk so badly that he takes significant time to recover, that's simply because he isn't as strong as Zeus.That is another way of looking at it.
Of course, I'll accept it if I did miss something elsewhere in the comic. Something about Zeus magically cancelling out his HF. Am not at home at the moment, so not got access to my comics, but that is a poor excuse, so I will attempt to search for it. Help is always appreciated.
Regular magic, including Odin Force is not a problem. Don't know why, but it is what it is.
I've got the comics somewhere on a back-up drive, but more trouble than it's worth looking for them.
Originally posted by carver9
You all have to be smarter than this...this isn't an insult either. You can't break the chains, you've been hit by Zeus, your strength will not return for a long time. Common sense...something else was at play. How would he have known Hulk strength wouldn't retuurn in a long time?
I'm pretty certain it was the way I said it was, but ... It's a lot of effort finding the scans.
The way I interpreted that was that Zeus just hits that hard and to me is evident in the whole comic as Hulk ended up pucking and He only landed a single sucker punch. To me that is evidence enough that Zeus just hits that hard.
But is my point of view. and in any case Zeus wins and in here I don't think speed will make a difference but just prolong the inevitable.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
The way I interpreted that was that Zeus just hits that hard and to me is evident in the whole comic as Hulk ended up pucking and He only landed a single sucker punch. To me that is evidence enough that Zeus just hits that hard.But is my point of view. and in any case Zeus wins and in here I don't think speed will make a difference but just prolong the inevitable.
ZomStrange did far more damage - and he's also a magical entity - but Hulk was perfectly alright afterwards.
Hopefully someone has the scans of the issue (and the ones with Betty-Harpy, I think before HoTM).
Basically Zeus breaks his "oath", the instant he gets pissed off by Hulk cheap-shotting him.
Hera acknowledges that he's breaking his oath, and even cheers him on with the words "That's right, my love. An oath to a monster means nothing. Incinerate him."
As Zeus blasts him again, for the third time, with magic.
Originally posted by janus77
Don't goad, unless you're willing to go check out the thread where it was posted - which will probably take hours - because, all I can provide is hazy recollection rather than instant scan rebuttals.I'm pretty certain it was the way I said it was, but ... It's a lot of effort finding the scans.
The guy said "hit" ...not beat down. Singular. They are wrong.
Then prove us wrong.
Show us where Zeus cancelled the HF out using a spell or something. Hitting him with a blast that negates it mystically.
If you remember, carver, this is something ive been waiting for since I joined.
Not just overtaxing. Because the ZomStrange argument can be turned back on you....he was also hit by magic then, and he healed fine.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then prove us wrong.Show us where Zeus cancelled the HF out using a spell or something. Hitting him with a blast that negates it mystically.
If you remember, carver, this is something ive been waiting for since I joined.
Not just overtaxing. Because the ZomStrange argument can be turned back on you....he was also hit by magic then, and he healed fine.
And there's proof that Zeus' didn't fight Hulk in a simple h2h as some people here have stated.
The above scan was from page 4 of the Zeus respect thread on KMC. The entire fight was a mixture of Zeus blasting Hulk with lightning, both the initial huge strike and then a couple of other lesser ones and sequences where he amps his fists with his magic whilst punching Hulk (the white lightning glow around his fist for the final strike, I think).
As I said, Hulk's been hit a lot harder and he's gone through more powerful attacks than Zeus delivered in their fight, and he's been perfectly fine. This was definitely not a straightforward physical fight.
Hopefully someone's got the scans providing context for the Zeus magic weakness...
