Originally posted by HarbingerOnly if you leave tangibles, such Cable weaken by the time Surfer came along. He did apply Telepathy/Telekinesis globally non stop without rest.
Not sure how Cable's feats > SuperMAN's, given that the toughest opponent that Cable faced (A) was holding back tremendously, and (B) casually dropped him with eyebeams when he decided to get semi-serious.
Originally posted by leonidasSad, isn't it?
it seems that combat feats and who beat who don't count for as much as they used to.....
Originally posted by Uriel005This is true. Per Cable himself, his body couldn't hold up to the stress associated with that degree of energy output. His battle with Surfer nearly burned him out.
Not for 1 herald level fight though.
Originally posted by carver9The fact that Cable's energies were nearly depleted? The fact that Surfer owned him with a casual blast of his eye-beams after he got serious?
Who said Surfer was holding back? Who said that Cable was going all-out?
Originally posted by Galan007
Sad, isn't it?This is true. Per Cable himself, his body couldn't hold up to the stress associated with that degree of energy output. His battle with Surfer nearly burned him out.
The fact that Cable's energies were nearly depleted? The fact that Surfer owned him with a casual blast of his eye-beams after he got serious?
So Surfer destroying a damaged body counts as something? Surfer fighting someone that was basically multitasking "globally" none stop, for days without any rest counts as something? Think Galan... Surfer was pretty much 100% when he faced Cable. That fight means nothing.
Originally posted by leonidas
it seems that combat feats and who beat who don't count for as much as they used to.....
Combat feats are certainly important, but the context surrounding such feats also needs to be noted. Hence not just that he beat so and so character but how he beat so and so character and if it would be applicable in the particular versus match. Cuz getting caught up in A beat B, C and D, without seeing if the way that the characters were defeated is even applicable to a particular match leads to alot of silly arguments being made.
Originally posted by Galan007
Kay, so what feats does "Gawd" Cable have that lead you to think he would be more than a nuisance to Surfer?
His PL should be proof enough. Everything he did that entire run should have been enough proof. What type of power do you think it takes to give Surfer a challenge because anything you name, I'm pretty sure Cable has done it.
Originally posted by Naija boy👆
Combat feats are certainly important, but the context surrounding such feats also needs to be noted. Hence not just that he beat so and so character but how he beat so and so character and if it would be applicable in the particular versus match. Cuz getting caught up in A beat B, C and D, without seeing if the way that the characters were defeated is even applicable to a particular match leads to alot of silly arguments being made.
Originally posted by MindsetI love how they bring up Cable was hitting his stressing point in his fight with the Surfer, when he himself laid out his intentions to do as much as possible before reaching critical mass. Evident by the non stop TK/TP done globally by days on. SuperMANG by comparison, was gassed out in a single day.
It's getting pretty tiring explaining to people how that was a non fight...
Constantly applying TP/TK globally>>>>gassing after some good showings, in a single day.