Originally posted by JakeTheBank
.....Firelord has taken blows from Mjolnir and Thor's fists and has stood his ground. In multiple comics, no less.
Screw 10-20 tons of force. Seriously. One of Thor's holding back blows is exponentially greater than a blitz of pissed off Spidey punches.
I agree with this.
But Spiderman didn't knock him out, he fatigued him. If it was a tko, yes, I would agree with you but Spiderman kind of just wore him out to the point where he just passed out.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with this.But Spiderman didn't knock him out, he fatigued him. If it was a tko, yes, I would agree with you but Spiderman kind of just wore him out to the point where he just passed out.
....which is PIS.
If Firelord can fight prolonged battles with arguably one of the two most powerful high herald class beings in Marvel and hold his ground, then, frankly, I'm sorry, but Spider-Man isn't doing jack shit to him. Fatigue wise or damaging him, it's all glorified PIS.
Originally posted by Mindset
Jake, you ned to read the comic again. FL was holding back against Pete.
I can see holding back your offensive fire output and not trying to waste someone, but I don't understand how that translates into your durability and stamina taking a monstrous dive. That's something that, to me, anyway, would be innate and not something you can shut off or tone down - at least with the power set Firelord has.
Holding back, I can see Firelord not trying to kill or even harm Spidey, but Firelord still shouldn't be phased by Spider-Man's punches or anything like that.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
....which is PIS.If Firelord can fight prolonged battles with arguably one of the two most powerful high herald class beings in Marvel and hold his ground, then, frankly, I'm sorry, but Spider-Man isn't doing jack shit to him. Fatigue wise or damaging him, it's all glorified PIS.
I can't believe you jumped into our debate.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankSpiderman tired him out iirc, meaning his energy, the energy that was already being lowered, got low enough to make him gas.
I can see holding back your offensive fire output and not trying to waste someone, but I don't understand how that translates into your durability and stamina taking a monstrous dive. That's something that, to me, anyway, would be innate and not something you can shut off or tone down - at least with the power set Firelord has.Holding back, I can see Firelord not trying to kill or even harm Spidey, but Firelord still shouldn't be phased by Spider-Man's punches or anything like that.
Originally posted by inimalist
...just to get something straight...
Spider-Man can legitimately tire out and KO Firelord, but would lose to Wolverine?
Let's not go there unless we actually look at what and who both characters have defeated. Both of them have consistent showings of giving Heralds pause.
Originally posted by carver9
Honestly... I don't see the Spiderman and Firelord fight as PIS. It was clearly explained why Spiderman beat Firelord.The word PIS needs to completely leave the forum. If you got yow a** whipped, you just got that a** whipped.
No.
and stop arguing SVFL.
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Warpath should win, though.
Originally posted by carver9I'm willing to give legit wins due to CIS for example if he should have defeated Absorbing Man by cutting him apart cause AM is an idiot.
Why would I do that when all in all, you are going to mark it as PIS?
But if you're reffering to shit like the Count Nefaria incident consider yourself facepalmed.
Plus I'm not even sure on how many "Heralds" he took on.
EDIT: The problem with you is you tend to blow shit out of proportion.