Prison in Norway

Started by lord xyz4 pages

THC does, but Cannabis contains CBD as well, which does the opposite.

There's some lab that uses CBD to help with mental illnesses in some country. Do a google search if you're interested.

But here's a pdf on CBD: http://www.scielo.br/pdf/bjmbr/v39n4/6164.pdf

A high dose of ∆9-tetrahydrocannabinol, the main Cannabis sativa (cannabis) component, induces anxiety and psychotic-like symptoms in healthy volunteers. These effects of ∆9-tetrahydrocannabinol are significantly reduced by cannabidiol (CBD), a cannabis constituent which is devoid of the typical effects of the plant. This observation led us to suspect that CBD could have anxiolytic and/or antipsychotic actions...

In conclusion, results from pre-clinical and clinical studies suggest that CBD is an effective, safe and well-tolerated alternative treatment for schizophrenic patients. Future trials of this cannabinoid in other psychotic conditions such as bipolar disorder (50) and comparative studies of its antipsychotic effects with those produced by clozapine in schizophrenic patients are clearly needed

All the methods, results etc. are in the pdf and worth reading. Don't take my word for it! ermm

I, in fact, follow the marijuana medical literature pretty closely

Well, does my joke or that paper have any credibility then?

sure, nobody smokes CBD alone though, and tests on marijuana show it increases rather than decreases the symptoms of many mental health issues

your point would be like saying "there are cancer fighting chemicals in tobacco". There very well might be, but that is irrelevant given that cigarettes as a whole are cancer causing

I think it would be pretty neat to try pure CBD.

Originally posted by lord xyz
(I think the shooter can speak English too since he listened to Pat Condell).

And here's his response to the shooting:

YouTube video

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think it would be pretty neat to try pure CBD.

I don't think it is psychoactive

EDIT: it also increases cortisol levels, so it would not be a good treatment for stress

Originally posted by inimalist
This can't be the first time Norway has had a criminal that would be impossible to rehabilitate. I imagine they have some way of accommodating them, though, I still don't think the purpose of prison should be to punish him, merely to keep the rest of society safe from them.

I think it is the first time in a long time they've had someone this bad or close to it.

Norway has one of the lowest murder rates in the world and before this incident one of the most heinous crimes in the country's modern history was the burning of a centuries' old church by Varg Vikernes (sp?).

From an article I read a few days ago I don't think the security standards of Norwegian prisons will keep this guy in.

I also disagree that punishment should be the aim of prisons, but I don't think Norway are living in the real world if their guards don't have any guns to speak of and play sports with the inmates. He'd just walk right out of a prison like that or take it over from the inside.

Originally posted by inimalist
I don't think it is psychoactive

EDIT: it also increases cortisol levels, so it would not be a good treatment for stress


I have heard that it is responsible for many of the "body" effects of weed. In which case, there would definitely be noticeable activity.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think it is the first time in a long time they've had someone this bad or close to it.

Norway has one of the lowest murder rates in the world and before this incident one of the most heinous crimes in the country's modern history was the burning of a centuries' old church by Varg Vikernes (sp?).

From an article I read a few days ago I don't think the security standards of Norwegian prisons will keep this guy in.

I also disagree that punishment should be the aim of prisons, but I don't think Norway are living in the real world if their guards don't have any guns to speak of and play sports with the inmates. He'd just walk right out of a prison like that or take it over from the inside.

well sure, but something doesn't have to be of this level to be a serious crime. I'd imagine sexual predators are still about as common there as everywhere else, and many rapists cannot be reformed.

iirc, there was a school shooting in Norway not that many years ago as well. Actually, looking at suicide statistics, there is a huge number of male suicides in scandanavia... I wonder if that has any impact on this shooting...

anyways, I really can't imagine Norway's prisons are entirely unable to deal with a violent criminal, and Sym pointed out they can renew sentences in 5 year increments if people are deemed a danger to society.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
From an article I read a few days ago I don't think the security standards of Norwegian prisons will keep this guy in.

What article made it sound like he was going to escape? They're comfortable prisons but afaik they're still prisons.

Sometimes people see reality differently to each other.

When nations do this we have wars, often caused by cultures or religions clashing. When individuals clash with the pervasive ideology or even the tenants a society is based on, they can be perceived as everything from lunatics to heroes and everything in between, to the left and to the right.

Who is to say what is right and what is wrong? Do what thou wilt and that shall be the whole of the law? Or not.....

Originally posted by King Kandy
I have heard that it is responsible for many of the "body" effects of weed. In which case, there would definitely be noticeable activity.

the article xyz posted said it had no such effects, idk, maybe it does, I'm not really familiar with it

if it does have a significant impact on cortisol levels, sure, it totally would have some type of effect... I'm not sure how pleasurable that would be though... and the canabanoid system is really still poorly understood

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
And here's his response to the shooting:

YouTube video

About time, but Pat Condell is still anti-Muslim and prejudice. Ever see his "No mosque at ground zero" video, or his "Ban the Burka" video? They are against human rights, Pat is a hypocrite.

I imagine he sees his stance on the Burka as promoting human rights

Originally posted by inimalist
I imagine he sees his stance on the Burka as promoting human rights
He does, because he's a prejudice idiot.

Originally posted by lord xyz
He does, because he's a prejudice idiot.

do you really believe it is as black and white as that?

When you make videos substituting "Muslim" with "terrorist", "extremist", "suicide bomber" etc. and follow it with "Quran teaches you to kill" then yeah, you're prejudice against Muslims. If you get featured on BNP websites and EDL websites and don't change or reiterate your stance, despite claiming to be against terror and for free speech, then you're an idiot.

He makes good points in some cases, n tbh, he was just an old bigot who exercised his right to free speech effectively. But he definitely has an irrational hatred towards a religion.

YouTube video